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Apparently the incoming Administration is a tad concerned that there may be one or two people who wish to express a negative opinion about the way they are conducting themselves.
The National Park Service has filed an “omnibus blocking permit” on behalf of the Presidential Inaugural Committee in order to protect delicate Republicon fee fees on this point.
This is clearly aimed at squashing the Million Women March/Women’s March on Washington planned for January 21, as well as a counter-inaugural planned on January 20 itself, and any other nascent protest plans by folks who might want to point out that the would-be emperor has no clothes.
The National Park Service is claiming in Orwellian fashion that all these historic areas are “construction zones” between November 1 and March 1 because they are building “inauguration bleachers and viewing stands”.
I grew up in DC and can say for a fact that it does not take ten weeks to build the reviewing stands or six weeks to take them down.  Not only that, somehow every other presidential inauguration managed to handle inauguration construction without the need for a blocking permit that lasts for weeks.  Back when traffic used to go right past the White House on Pennsylvania Avenue, the reviewing stands were usually down the next day!  Maybe DJT is having a hard time hiring roadies—any national tour rock band staff can tear down a stage that big in a matter of hours.
I know DC well and have a suggestion that I don’t mind stating publicly because I don’t think there is anything Rcons can do about it.  We should go to DC anyway, writing protest slogans on our coats and wearing large buttons on our outerwear (since they may confiscate signs) and just walk up and down the streets on the sidewalks in the nearby downtown business districts.  Those who care to may break into song, or begin talking loudly with one another in a rhythmic repetitive fashion.  Although those actions may lead to arrest for disturbing the peace, they cannot bar people from walking on every downtown and uptown sidewalk.  Those streets need to be open and accessible because the stores and restaurants and hotels count on doing big business from inauguration visitors.  And they cannot know for sure that we are not there to shop or eat!
A hundred smaller protests stretched out all over the three major business districts of the city will be much harder to police.  Business owners will be extremely angry that a million extra people wandering about aimlessly are making it harder for customers to get in and out of their establishments.  Dawn will break over Marblehead and they will realize that is the reason why large protests should be taken to areas like the Mall and the Lincoln Memorial where they do not interfere with regular sidewalk traffic.
Funniest thing about this, if any part of it could be said to be funny (we have to laugh to keep from crying) is that they think we will have calmed down by March 1.  Damn—that’s just getting to be good protesting weather!  Besides, how do they know we are not there to see the cherry blossoms?
LBNL, anyone who thinks they will allow demonstrations after March 1, please raise your hand.
I don’t see any hands in the air.  Perhaps you didn’t understand the directions.
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Everyone please read and rec these other diaries on the same topic
jabberwoky had a diary up first
Dartagnan also posted ahead of me
more eyes means more visibility!
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I used search and didn’t see another diary about
I used search and didn’t see another diary about this.  If someone else has already covered this I will delete, but I just heard about it and if I missed it maybe others did as well.
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See Dartagnan’s diary here — but do not delete!
See Dartagnan’s diary here — but do not delete! This needs MANY diaries! {{{TBM}}}
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i just found jabberwoky’s diary also. but I want
i just found jabberwoky’s diary also.  but I want people to see my alternative protest plan
Everyone is focusing on the Lincoln Memorial because that was supposed to be the site of the Women’s March, but the blocking permit also includes the Mall, the Washington Monument, and Pennsylvania Avenue.
I fully expect they will expand it to cover more areas before Jan 20 gets here.
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Thanks for linking my diary and writing one of y
Thanks for linking my diary and writing one of your own, this issue needs as many eyes as possible. 
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If we can’t protest in DC then lets protest in 1
If we can’t protest in DC then lets protest in 100 other cities.  Without the need to travel they’ll be ten times as many people.
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With a MAJOR one in NYC at Trump Tower. Wouldn’t
With a MAJOR one in NYC at Trump Tower. Wouldn’t filling Central Park be just as powerful? I’d really like to see a massive climate march. Sad that none seem planned.
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I was saying on another thread that Manhattan ar
I was saying on another thread that Manhattan around Trump Tower should be shut down by protesters. 
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I disagree: only a huge one at Trump Tower and a
I disagree: only a huge one at Trump Tower and a huge one at DC are necessary. EVERYONE should plan to go to one of those. Photos / videos of gigantic crowds are the only way to break through the media blackout.
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Actually, there is one planned for4-29-2017...Pe
Actually, there is one planned for4-29-2017...Peoples Climate March
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IF we had GOOD organizers (like UNIONS in Europe …
IF we had GOOD organizers (like UNIONS in Europe) the dictator could not abolish the right to protest which is freedom of speech.
WE need LEADERS who will decide whether bit will be local and in Washington (for locals)…
My guess though is that NO MATTER WHAT< there will be local protests (maybe unorganized) by the people who cannot go to the capital.
I am still waiting to see who is getting buses ready and paying for the trip for the MANY of us who cannot afford the trip (even by bus). Where are the Millionaires on the Clinton side? Where are the Clintons? where is the Clinton foundation when it matters?  a and by the way, Are they contributing for the recount of votes?
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In all the reporting I’ve seen, the Clinton camp
In all the reporting I’ve seen, the Clinton campaign hasn’t donated a dime towards the recount.
 Granted, she won’t likely personally gain from it, but it’d be nice if the integrity of our democracy was a consideration also.
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TrueBlue, so will the prohibition affect that ho
TrueBlue, so will the prohibition affect that horrible “march for life?” This year it’s scheduled for Jan. 27th.
They focus on the Supreme Court, but I think they rally on the Mall and march by the Capitol to the Court.
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If it doesn’t, I’d immediately file a suit throu
If it doesn’t, I’d immediately file a suit through the ACLU.
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I think there are groups already suing. These gu
I think there are groups already suing.  These guys ...www.disruptj20.org are planning on disrupting a lot of things on Jan 20th at the inaugural.  Michael Moore has been advertising them.  Anyone interested in street action...contact them.
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Remember when Republicans spent eight years call
Remember when Republicans spent eight years calling Obama a dictator and a tyrant who was shoving things down their throat?
Fun times!
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Does this mean that if you show up to the inaugu
Does this mean that if you show up to the inauguration with a T-Shirt that has “Trump” written on it with the universal “no” symbol over it (the red circle with the slash through it) you could be arrested for protesting without a permit?
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What about umbrellas that, when opened, display …
What about umbrellas that, when opened, display anti-Trump messages.
Best with mocking messages.
example, two umbrella holders, side by side…
Umbrella holder 1” picture of Trump”, umbrella holder 2: Umbrella message: “I’m with stubby fingers”.
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YES of course unless there are MILLIONS to arres
YES of course unless there are MILLIONS to arrest...
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I was actually serious about this question. I do …
I was actually serious about this question. I do not know the answer but it seems that ANY show dissent could be viewed as a protest … and since they have officially said no protest permits until March … could a “Not my President“ button get you hauled off the Mall there in DC ?
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I’m no expert on this, but I would think that wo
I’m no expert on this, but I would think that would fall under your right to free speech. If Corporation’s money is free speech, a button or T-shirt better be! But the fact that this is a real question speaks volumes to the damage that is already done by Himself. We cannot take our Individual rights to freedom of speech or assembly for granted anymore.
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I recall during the Bush/Cheney regime there was
I recall during the Bush/Cheney regime there was a man and his son who were staying in a hotel that was having a fundraiser that Dubya appeared at. This man left his hotel room wearing a T-Shirt that had Bushes name on it with a red x over the name. Both the man and his son were wisked from the hotel grounds by Bush Security members and “detained” for hours before finally being released — having never been charged with anything.
To this day I am appalled by what seems a blatant attack on free speech.
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I’d say there’d be a better than average chance
I’d say there’d be a better than average chance of a massive repeat of this.  Remember when their team actually shunted protestors practically entirely offsite, even when the only act of protest was such a t-shirt?  As in shoved away behind a chain link fence?  And thrown out of the gallery of one of the houses of Congress.  For a freaking *t-shirt*?? Yes, it all falls under freedom of speech and the First Amendment — which is under serious assault, and is precisely one of the main things we have to fight.
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This happened frequently during Bush’s reign. An
This happened frequently during Bush’s reign. And I suspect we are going to see much worse during Trump’s.
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The sad fact is that Trump and his weasel-pack r
The sad fact is that Trump and his weasel-pack really are a dictators.  I know I don;t want my tax dollars to be used for a fat party for pigs who think they are better than everyone else.
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Please, pigs are intelligent, feeling animals, n
Please, pigs are intelligent, feeling animals, neither of which definition describes repukes!
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4 Tea party ‘protesters’ sitting in lawn chairs …
4 Tea party ‘protesters’ sitting in lawn chairs get national coverage….but on the other hand, there are opinions that those in power would rather NOT hear.
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My question exactly! It does say that ALL protes
My question exactly! It does say that ALL protests on the Mall are cancelled. Are they going to split semantic hairs and say that is a “march” or a “rally” and not a protest? Methinks someone has not thought this one through completely.
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I like the idea of local protests nationwide — i
I like the idea of local protests nationwide — in addition to/in lieu of a  Washington, DC gathering. We need a focus of organization near our homes, as well as at a national level.
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Do these local protests right in front of the me
Do these local protests right in front of the media’s locations, to make it that much easier for them to cover the protests.  Thousands of people protesting outside the NYT’s office, the WaPo’s office, and WABC’s (etc.) should get at least a little bit of coverage, right?
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They will HAVE TO COVER THE PROTESTS!
They will HAVE TO COVER THE PROTESTS!
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well, they can still refuse to cover the protest
well, they can still refuse to cover the protests.
but we will use alternative media as long as we are able
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I think things have changed since the non covera
I think things have changed since the non coverage of Bush era antiwar protests. Now with peoples own iphones, posting stuff to fb and Youtube etc.
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What constitutes a protests?
What constitutes a protests?
If a million people show up at the inauguration wearing anti- Trump t-shirts and carrying anti- Trumps signs, so what?
They are there to see the inauguration of an American President just as people have done for a couple of hundred years now. They are part of the audience for the inauguration. As American citizens, they have a right to witness it, to be there no matter what there opinions.
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Just wear a MAGA hat and keep your coat closed.
Just wear a MAGA hat and keep your coat closed.  When Trump comes in, off go the hats, and open the coats and start YELLING.  Drown the whole inaugural out!
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i know there are protests planned for NY and Bos
i know there are protests planned for NY and Boston
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Portland, Oregon, as well. A women’s march on th
Portland, Oregon, as well. A women’s march on the 21st. I am planning to attend.
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I would like to mourn publicly. Perhaps some kee
I would like to mourn publicly. Perhaps some keening. Prayers. I’m going to be very sad that day, because I am a patriot.
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Yes. Something in the nature of Sitting Shiva se
Yes. Something in the nature of Sitting Shiva seems appropriate to me. Remember our heroes from the past, what it is we value about them (what it is that gives us discomfort, too). Remember that they were real people, just as we are real people. They were flawed, just as we are flawed. And yet, their achievements have kept the liberty torch lit down to our time. We are now its guardians and keepers. Maybe end with
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And Judaism had the perfect ritual all along! We
And Judaism had the perfect ritual all along! We could sit at Kesey Square and keen for the death of democracy.
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I thought January 20 would be an ideal day to th
I thought January 20 would be an ideal day to throw nationwide Thanks Obama retirement parties. No protest against Trump to "quell" but mass ignoring the Pussygrabber-in-chief could make his head explode
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since I can’t be there I will protest by not tun …
since I can’t be there I will protest by not tuning in to this whatever it is going to be on that particular day…  Maybe watch South Park instead.
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Can’t go wrong with South Park. Quick question.
Can’t go wrong with South Park. Quick question. Is DJT the giant douche or turd sandwich?   ; )
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one wrapped up in the other.
one wrapped up in the other.
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A giant doucheturdwich.
A giant doucheturdwich.
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I spoke with a person connected with this event
I spoke with a person connected with this event and 3rd. & Constitution was mentioned. There is also “We Shall Not be Moved” March by the NAN on the 14th.  I guess the USSS realizes that this shitgibbon is  not wanted by most voters. And further, the shitgibbon will use protests to bring on “Patriot Act,  part 2”.  
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My good wife heard of this and had the following …
My good wife heard of this and had the following suggestion. Continue with the Million Woman March, but organize it into state delegations. Each state marches within Trump’s goddamn free speech zone (my contribution, my good wife never says goddamn), down the avenue named for their state. Massachusetts Avenue, Kentucky Avenue, Florida Avenue… Shut down the entire city, and dare the media not to cover it.
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The media will take that dare without even blink
The media will take that dare without even blinking.
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that’s interesting. Every state has a street nam
that’s interesting.  Every state has a street named after it in DC.  Some of them are far away from downtown, but the idea sounds cool anyway
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So, we Pennsylvanians will go to jail because of
So, we Pennsylvanians will go to jail because of our prime protest location. OK.
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I’m a retired (thank you for the budget cuts, To
I’m a retired (thank you for the budget cuts, Tom Corbett) female teacher from PA who is also a kidney transplant recipient. I think I’m in several vulnerable demographics, but I can bring extra anti-rejection meds with me for an extended stay in DC!
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More information would be helpful. For one thing …
More information would be helpful. For one thing, NPS indicates several other organizations besides the inaugural committee also have prior dibs on the space. Is this an organized effort to block the Women’s March or other protests, or is it a case that the Women’s March did not apply in a timely fashion?
NPS registered seven permit applications from five organizations for the same sites at the same time..Mike Litterst, a public affairs officer at the National Park Service, characterizes the other permit applications for that space and time as “four other First Amendment activities.”
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My understanding is that this is fairly routine …
My understanding is that this is fairly routine and that the NPS had their plans in place (of course) well before any November plans were made to protest. True? I just think we should be careful about our facts … not be as sloppy as the Rethugs in this regard. It doesn’t seem like this is any draconian measure, just usual practice. I welcome facts pointing me in another direction.
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One of the other DK poster’s diary had link to i
One of the other DK poster’s diary had link to info about this. This was NOT the doing of the NPS. This was the direct result of a request filed by the non-government, Inaugural Committee to the NPS and represents an unprecedented length of time for closing these public lands to protest.
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Trump’s weak mind cannot take dissent.
Trump’s weak mind cannot take dissent.
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or ridicule, which is why we need to laugh and p
or ridicule, which is why we need to laugh and point at him each and every day in every way we can!
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ridicule is extremely important because we alrea
ridicule is extremely important because we already know it has the power to affect him
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Until Trump is inaugurated, the NPS answers to t
Until Trump is inaugurated, the NPS answers to the Obama administration.  It seems like he should be able to quash this B.S.
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Sometimes his ability to be the only adult in th
Sometimes his ability to be the only adult in the room gets real annoying. I will admit that sometimes I have really wanted him to go all “Incredible Hulk” and just SMASH!
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I’ve read this also. It was reported that NPS ma
I’ve read this also. It was reported that NPS made this request a year ago, before Trump could have had any influence. However it appears that it will ultimately be the Trump team’s choice how much of that reserved land they take- or give to other organizations. But it appears that right now, the idea to attribute this action to Trump may be jumping the gun.  If anyone has evidence indicating otherwise, please share!
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Thanks for covering this, I hadn’t heard about i
Thanks for covering this, I hadn’t heard about it, and please don’t delete.
The solution, clearly is the same one employed against DAPL. We will not be silenced, and it’s our GD’d mall, it belongs to us, and we’ll speak our minds no matter what the apparatchiks say. I would urge any and all who can to protest in DC before and during the inauguration, or should I say the “enabling” of Trump.
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Do you have any evidence that the same blocking
Do you have any evidence that the same blocking permits were not issued in 2008 and 2012?
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Activist organization A.N.S.W.E.R protests at al
Activist organization A.N.S.W.E.R protests at all inaugurations, they reported this action was unique and they didn't have this problem in 2008. At Bush’s 04 inauguration, protesters were actually allowed along the parade inauguration route- full visibility of Bush! So this is certainly unique.
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Hello, new user at Daily Kos! Our site guidelines and unique community moderation system are explained in the Rules of the Road.
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Thank you Paradise for the warm welcome! After r
Thank you Paradise for the warm welcome! After reading the Rules of the Road, I’m very dismayed by the choice to ban all political speech unfavorable to Democrats. While I agree with your goals, these methods have no place in any liberal organization, in my opinion. I’d love to become much more active in the site, but I cannot in good conscience be complicit in the banning of any speech. Best wishes.
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It’s obvious that criticism is Donald Trump’s kr
It’s obvious that criticism is Donald Trump’s kryptonite. We just have to figure out a protest that will push him over the edge into spontaneous combustion.
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at mar a lago in florida and trump tower in nyc.
at mar a lago in florida and trump tower in nyc.  on jan 21st.  suck the air out of his inaguaration coverage.
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That is a great idea.
That is a great idea.
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Yeah, and let Trump’s inauguration committee pay
Yeah, and let Trump’s inauguration committee pay for the clean up after the demonstrations — let’s not strap NY and Florida taxpayers with any more bills protecting Don the con’s properties. 
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Here’s a thought … make your own anti trump t-sh …
Here’s a thought … make your own anti trump t-shirt. Wear it to the inaug. and somewhere along remove the outer shirt and expose the dastardly message. Thousands of individual freedoms of speech blasting out ruining his little crowning!
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Or somebody make peel off stickers of the red ba
Or somebody make peel off stickers of the red ban sign. Place it over your Trump sign after getting in.
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Would that be called a false flag? Heh.
Would that be called a false flag? Heh.
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getting in? the inauguration is outdoors.
getting in?  the inauguration is outdoors.
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Which side of the fence you are on might as well
Which side of the fence you are on might as well be inside VS outside.
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more like the protesters are “fenced in” and eve
more like the protesters are “fenced in” and everyone else is outside
except for the special seating area at the West Front of the Capitol
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رویز مشرف‎; (pervez Musharraf says:
رویز مشرف‎; (pervez Musharraf says:
Resistance is futile; I will brook no dissent!
Our Beloved Combover has learned his lessons well.
The space is needed for a Nurnberg-style rally extolling the virtues of Trumpism.
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Via twitterstorm?
Via twitterstorm?
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Via every route anyone can think of.
Via every route anyone can think of.
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The march MUST go on! No matter what.
The march MUST go on!  No matter what.  
If the marchers have to take to side streets it will only highlight the oppression we can expect in the next four years.  
I am marching in No. Cal, but will try to help in any way I can to support the DC march. 
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being literally marginalized …. to beyond the ed …
being literally marginalized …. to beyond the edges of the People’s Mall.
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I was planning on marching in the Women’s March
I was planning on marching in the Women’s March (even though I am of the male persuasion).  I would expect they would hold it anyway, somewhere close.  Does anybody have any solid information on this?
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The plan is to start the March at the US Capitol
The plan is to start the March at the US Capitol. 
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This doesn't seem like the kind of protest that
This doesn't seem like the kind of protest that one should ask or expect permission for.
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Good luck with that, no protests that is...
Good luck with that, no protests that is...
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This is outrageous! Why is NPS doing Trump's bid
This is outrageous! Why is NPS doing Trump's bidding?
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Because they don’t want to get defunded, but the
Because they don’t want to get defunded, but they will anyway eventually.
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Yeah, makes sense.
Yeah, makes sense.
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Exactly — eventually everything will be defunded
Exactly — eventually everything will be defunded by the right wingers except for the Department of Defense and the Pentagon. Gotta keep those profits, oops, I mean wars going for the MIC, in the name of patriotism and defending our country. 
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i have so much work to do today i may not be abl
i have so much work to do today i may not be able to watch this diary closely and there are at least two others diaries up about it but I hope people will discuss my alternative proposal here.
There are major business districts all around the White House.  if they would rather see a hundred small protests on the side streets then fine.
raise a glass to freedom.  something they can never take away, no matter what they tell you!
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How about hats that say something like the "pres
How about hats that say something like the "presidency is too big for tiny hands" or "love trumps hate", "liberals for freedom & democracy"? How about all of us get a hat and tweet group photos to him with Brims low?
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Or wearing a sweatshirt with the First Amendment
Or wearing a sweatshirt with the First Amendment printed on it with the last clause about peaceable assembly and petitioning the Government highlighted in bright yellow.
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How about arm bands with this…
How about arm bands with this…
composed by Sable Schwab
.…………………………..…….TOGETHER……………………….……...
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Looking closely at the white knuckles next to th
Looking closely at the white knuckles next to the stars it resembles DJT's profile! AARGH!
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Oh God, can’t unsee…..
Oh God, can’t unsee…..
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Aaarrrrggghhh!
Aaarrrrggghhh!
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Love that! Changed my Twitter avatar to it, And
Love that! Changed my Twitter avatar to it, And I almost never change avatars.
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Cool! Spread it far & wide!
Cool! Spread it far & wide!
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Love your proposal! That you grew up in DC is a
Love your proposal!  That you grew up in DC is a real plus in telling us how to march without a Mall, etc. permit and really highlights how we could lose our Constitutional rights in the next 4 years.
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Having gone to law school in DC and also spendin
Having gone to law school in DC and also spending many trips marching during permitted and non-permitted gatherings in dc prior to George Jr taking office I will second the statement that it in no way takes that long to put up the traditional barricades needed for inauguration or other events. If it did, DC would be shut down ALL THE FREAKIN TIME. This makes me think that there needs to be hidden actions, true civil disobedience on a country wide scale that NO ONE can ignore. They can ignore 2 million people voting in the popular vote but they cannot ignore the aftermath. This is only the beginning.
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Just curious—is all access to the mall and monum
Just curious—is all access to the mall and monuments going to be prohibited for that period of time? Or will people be able to come watch the inauguration or visit the museums? Is the prohibition strictly against protests.
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Why are people recommending this comment when it
Why are people recommending this comment when it is a question and no one has answered it? I’d like to know the answer. Anybody know?
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i recommend all non-trollish comments in my diar
i recommend all non-trollish comments in my diaries .
i do not know the answer to your question or sure, but I assume the mall and monuments are open.  people will be encouraged to come watch the inauguration and visit the museums.  the prohibition applies only to protests.
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and
and
i think other people are recommending it without answering it because they think it is a good question but they do not know the answer either
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Okaaay, well if anyone is thinking about how the
Okaaay, well if anyone is thinking about how they might create an obstacle to appearances of normalcy, they might want to know the answer to this question. There may be a new path to the waterfall.
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Excellent proposal.
Excellent proposal.
Also wear T-shirts with relevant wording on them.
Chanting & singing can’t be stopped.
Carrying signs can’t be stopped either, as long as the signs aren’t so large that they block sidewalks and so on, or have sticks that can be considered possible weapons.  For example signs that are printed on regular 8-½ x 11 office paper, taped to corrugated cardboard and held by hand.  Yes you can get a pretty decent message into that format.
And by all means do patronize local businesses while carrying these signs, but don’t chant inside their premises because that would just piss off others.  So, stop in for a snack, lunch, a soft drink or juice or water, etc.   Let them see that they’re getting biz from protesters.
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And always peaceful.
And always peaceful.
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Yes, absolutely.
Yes, absolutely. 
Set an example, don’t be made an example of.
For pragmatic reasons as well as for moral reasons.
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Love yah, TBM!!
Love yah, TBM!!
Raise a Glass to Freedom!!
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Hamilton always gets a rec!
Hamilton always gets a rec!
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Raise a glass to Hamilton!!!
Raise a glass to Hamilton!!!
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LOL I played it and then was surprised when the
LOL I played it and then was surprised when the drums for the beginning of Schuyler Sisters didn’t come in!
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Ever read Hans Fallada?
Ever read Hans Fallada?
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Yes.
Yes.
“It doesn't matter if one man fights or ten thousand; if the one man sees he has no option but to fight, then he will fight, whether he has others on his side or not.” 
― Hans FalladaEvery Man Dies Alone
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Basic constitutional law. Government authorities
Basic constitutional law.  Government authorities must provide reasonable accommodation for persons to exercise their first amendment rights.  The government may restrict such gatherings in a neutral non-discriminatory manner by time, place or manner — no one has a right to march down the Washington Beltway during weekday rush hour — but may not arbitrarily deny parade permits.  See Hague v. CIO (1939) declaring unconstitutional a Jersey City ordinance that barred political meetings and an infinite number of decisions ever since.
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How come the current President isn’t telling the
How come the current President isn’t telling the NPS to knock it off?
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Hadn’t you heard? We’re supposed to “give Trump
Hadn’t you heard? We’re supposed to “give Trump a chance”.
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How come the current President isn’t telling the
How come the current President isn’t telling the NPS to knock it off?
Because he’s a soon to be retired millionaire who doesn’t really give a shit.
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Yawn.
Yawn.
Enjoy your sense of oppression.
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Enjoy your sense of oppression.
Enjoy your sense of oppression.
I’m happy to entertain your theory should you choose to advance one.
I could also more charitably speculate that Obama is just tired and overwhelmed. But I find it enormously disturbing that this is happening under his watch and reserve the right to be snippy about it.
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i’ll advance a theory
i’ll advance a theory
I predict BHO will do a bunch of stuff on his way out the the door that we can’t predict right now
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I so hope you are right and he knows that if he
I so hope you are right and he knows that if he talks about it, it’s just handing ammunition to his opponents.
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I predict BHO will do a bunch of stuff on his wa
I predict BHO will do a bunch of stuff on his way out the the door that we can’t predict right now
I don’t exactly predict it, but I certainly hope for it. Even the most futile, easily undone gestures would be welcome just to force the incoming regime to waste time on them.
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Anything to clog up the machine.
Anything to clog up the machine.
Monkey-wrenches — YAAS!!
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You must be a rich, straight, non-disabled white
You must be a rich, straight, non-disabled white man if you're not worried about oppression under a Trump administration. I personally am not going to "enjoy" it when I can't get reasonable health insurance because of a pre-existing condition.
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I”m pretty sure Remembering Jello is referring t
I”m pretty sure Remembering Jello is referring to the presumed oppression under the Obama Administration.
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What excrement...
What excrement...
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Who was talking about oppression under a Trump r
Who was talking about oppression under a Trump regime?
The poster i was replying to had managed to feel oppressed under the Obama administration.
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The poster i was replying to had managed to feel
The poster i was replying to had managed to feel oppressed under the Obama administration.
I let this go the first time, but since you’ve elected to repeat it I have to call bullshit. I complained/whined at MOST about apathy-inspired neglect, not active oppression.
I’m not even sure Obama isn’t entitled to tune out at this point, even if it stings. I can’t imagine that I wouldn’t be tempted to yawn while half-heartedly raising a middle finger or two after what just happened.
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You said he “doesn’t give a shit” and you also i …
You said he “doesn’t give a shit” and you also implied it was because he was rich.  I call bullshit on you’re calling bullshit….. 
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You said he “doesn’t give a shit” and you also i …
You said he “doesn’t give a shit” and you also implied it was because he was rich.  I call bullshit on you’re calling bullshit…..
You have quoted me accurately yet somehow concluded that my words indicated a claim of active oppression. Is it your belief that apathy and oppression are the same thing or is it your belief that I view everyone with more money than I as an oppressor?
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How did they manage that?? Unless they’re Nazis...
How did they manage that?? Unless they’re Nazis...
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Atrocity has a point, I haven’t seen that Obama
Atrocity has a point, I haven’t seen that Obama actually has our back on these issues. I think he’d rather just do something else.
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And Enjoy your superiority complex however tempo
And Enjoy your superiority complex however temporary—unless you’re one of the 0.01%.
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Give him a chance — this just hit the news in th
Give him a chance — this just hit the news in the past 24 hours. He may not have been aware of it.
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i’m sure he is aware of it
i’m sure he is aware of it
and as a constitutional lawyer is probably trying to decide what the best response is—something that cannot be easily overturned
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I would agree. He is not going to issue any sort
I would agree. He is not going to issue any sort of statement 5 seconds after the idiot releases these stupid decisions
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Yep. Unlike the current Pres-elect that literall
Yep. Unlike the current Pres-elect that literally does not think for 1 second before coming out with an idiotic response. Obama is probably mulling this over, deciding on the best course of action. This is an affront to the First Amendment if there ever was one. Surely the NPS making all these areas off limits for protests until March is unconstitutional?
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The devil is in this detail:
The devil is in this detail:
The government may restrict such gatherings in a neutral non-discriminatory manner by time, place or manner
and how it is interpreted. Recent precedent at various “national security events” have featured “free speech zones” far removed from the site of the event being protested. In my opinion this violates the spirit of the first amendment, but apparently the courts disagree.
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Started under W.
Started under W.
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Way too many trends hostile to democracy started
Way too many trends hostile to democracy started under Bush—I guess he was “lucky” to have the tower bombings on his watch.
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As you probably recall, he did refer to “hitting
As you probably recall, he did refer to “hitting the Trifecta.”
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Like he was “lucky” to have Cheney for VP? That
Like he was “lucky” to have Cheney for VP? That old shriveled Dick belongs in the Hague. Or worse. What a blight on humanity!
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The rebellion is only starting. They can’t shut
The rebellion is only starting. They can’t shut down the entire country.
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in solidarity, people could also protest these 8
in solidarity, people could also protest these 88 universities as a direct message to the trump propaganda operation.
a few hundred blowhards are going to shout over any protests that aren’t aimed at them and will attack the protestors and interpret the intent to tens of millions out there in the red states.
protesting to get these universities to pull their sports broadcasting from 257 limbaugh stations will scare all their advertisers away except for the few that love trump. it will break the trump/gop messaging advantage.
if some unis actually start the process others will be shamed into following. rw radio monopoly couldn’t survive.
all these 88 unis are good places to protest — those stations are the orange samson’s hair
ALABAMA 8  Auburn 3, Alabama 2, Southern Alabama 2, Troy 1 ARIZONA 2 Arizona St. 1, Arizona 1 ARKANSAS 3 Arkansas 3 CALIFORNIA 5 San Jose State 2, USC 2, Fresno St. 1
COLORADO 4 Air Force 2, Colorado 1, Colorado State 1
CONNECTICUT 1 Connecticut 1
FLORIDA 20 Florida 10, Florida St. 4 Miami 2, South Florida 2, Central Florida 2
GEORGIA 14 Georgia 7, Georgia Tech 5, Georgia Southern 2
IDAHO 7  Boise St. 4, Idaho 3
ILLINOIS 7 Illinois 7
INDIANA 11 Notre Dame 6, Purdue 4, Indiana 1
IOWA 5 Iowa 4, Iowa St. 1
KANSAS 4 Kansas St. 2, Kansas 1, Wichita St. 1
KENTUCKY 3 Louisville 2, Kentucky 1
LOUSIANA 3 LSU 2, La.-Monroe 1
MARYLAND 2 Maryland 2
MASSACHUSETTS 1 Boston College 1
MICHIGAN 19 Michigan St. 11, Michigan 7, Western Michigan 1
MINNESOTA 4 Minnesota 4
MISSISSIPPI 6 Mississippi St. 3, Mississippi 2, Southern Miss 1
MISSOURI 6 Missouri 6
NEBRASKA 6 Nebraska 6
NEVADA 1 Nevada 1
NEW JERSEY 2 Rutgers 1, Seton Hall 1
NEW MEXICO 3 New Mexico 2, New Mexico St. 1
NEW YORK 7 Syracuse 6, Army 1
NORTH CAROLINA 16 North Carolina 8, North Carolina State 3, Duke 3, East Carolina 2
OHIO 10 Ohio St. 6, Toledo 1, Dayton 1, Bowling Green 1, Xavier 1
OKLAHOMA 5 Oklahoma St. 3, Oklahoma 1, Oral Roberts 1
OREGON 12 Oregon St. 7, Oregon 5
PENNSYLVANIA 14 Penn St. 11, Pittsburgh 2, Temple 1
SOUTH CAROLINA 4 South Carolina 2, Clemson 2
TENNESSEE 7 Tennessee 4, Memphis 3
TEXAS 16 Texas A&M 9, Texas Tech 4, Texas 1, Texas Christian 1, Baylor 1
UTAH 1 Utah St. 1
VIRGINIA 6 Virginia Tech 5, Virginia 1 WASHINGTON 6 Washington 5, Washington St. 1 WEST VIRGINIA 2 West Virginia 1, Marshall 1 WISCONSIN 5 Wisconsin 5
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Well I am confused. It seems that you are advoca
Well I am confused. It seems that you are advocating clamping down on Free Speech while simultaneously whining about others clamping down on your right to Free Speech.
Can you really have it both ways?
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false equivalence is false.
false equivalence is false.
i won’t speak for certainot.  but there is a difference between encouraging people to boycott purveyors of hate speech and wanting the right to free speech for myself.
first of all, when I speak, I am not encouraging hate speech.
second, those stations can continue if they want to, but I will boycott the stations themselves and anyone who advertises on them.
paraphrasing Brandeis and the ACLU, the solution to hate speech is more speech.  namely, mine saying that hateradio is hateradio and no reputable person or organization or product should be associated with it.
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i attracted a troll!
i attracted a troll!
so this is your first post here and you want to be an idiot?
protesting a few ignorant think tank coordinated jerks on public airwaves hiding behind call screeners, who are trying to end net neutrality and destroy the planet and my family with flat earth global warming denial is somehow an attack on free speech?
are you really looking forward to the great orange asshole covering the country?
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A troll...I think not. I actually voted for your
A troll...I think not.  I actually voted for your beloved Hillary although not with great enthusiasm. However I find it more concerning that your solution is to shut down whatever voices you do not care to hear. 
You might be better off finding a Safe Space and contemplating your navel!
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Where is the ACLU? If the marchers are forced in
Where is the ACLU? If the marchers are forced into side streets the protests will be disruptive and hence discredited.
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the protests will be discredited regardless of w
the protests will be discredited regardless of where they take place
and at this point I want them to fear disruption so they they will change their mind and let us gather on the Mall!
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I was thinking that a march down Connecticut ave
I was thinking that a march down Connecticut ave from CC circle to the White House area would be a pretty good route.
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they won’t allow that either, but the Connecticu
they won’t allow that either, but the Connecticut Avenue business district is one of the sidewalk areas I have in mind ♥
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Was thinking the same thing. block the convoy ro
Was thinking the same thing. block the convoy routes. DC was made to make it difficult to get in and out of. Shut the city down. It’s easy to do.
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I wasn’t thinking about in the street, but down
I wasn’t thinking about in the street, but down the avenue.  Lots of space.  The pink cancer people use that a avenue as part of their route.  Seems reasonable to go along and pick up coffee, stop in to see the Pandas and enjoy DuPont circle, etc. along the way.
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One thing to consider is that protests have fail
One thing to consider is that protests have failed to stop the worst excesses of government in recent times. Not that I oppose protests mind you, I think it’s crucial that we push back, physically, and protest like Hell, but we may need more.
We failed to stop the Iraq invasion, despite hard-core participation, yet we succeeded in stopping the Syrian intervention. I think we’ve got to think of new ways to oppose them, and use those methods to judiciously to advance our agenda, and prevent theirs.
Without getting too specific, I’d like to see strategies that impede the process of normal functioning, yet always tied to crucial and immediate (easy) goals. If a road is blocked for “justice” for instance, that’s counter-productive, yet if it's blocked to free Leonard Peltier, it works.
It’s going to be an interesting four years, I hope we survive it.
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Protests don't stop government excesses. But the
Protests don't stop government excesses. But they serve notice.
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Yes, they don’t stop it, necessarily, but they a
Yes, they don’t stop it, necessarily, but they are one of the few communication channels that we still have. They are ignored at the peril of the oligarchs, because steps beyond are always ugly.
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This is what Trump’s puppeteers want. To discred
This is what Trump’s puppeteers want.  To discredit us.  They may even send rioters with anti-Trump shirts to spoil our peaceful march...
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like ows, wherever they take place politicians d
like ows, wherever they take place politicians don’t have to pay attention.
we have to start protesting at the root of republican power.
on a local or national level if protests make news the right just uses a few rw blowhards on loud radio stations to characterize the protestors and define their aims to tens of thousands on local level and ten of millions on the national level.
a protest at a capital is basically worthless unless there are hundreds of thousands
any violence or trash that gets left behind is talked about for weeks on those stations
those stations are the orange samson’s hair. they are the power centers of the gop and they will be until they stop being invisible to those they attack.
those radio stations and the many universities that support them need to be protested.
how many people protesting in NY OWS went through union station and didn’t notice right in that building was one of the oldest and powerful rw radio stations in the state, a station stocked with assholes calling the protestors all sorts of shit and egging on the cops and govt to clear them out and stop blocking traffic etc?
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I am going anyway.
I am going anyway.
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Same here.
Same here.
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Ayup. Me too.
Ayup. Me too. 
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Same here.
Same here.
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I would love to go, but hotel prices are far too
I would love to go, but hotel prices are far too high, and my remaining friends in the area live too far away.  Sleeping in the car just isn’t an option at this time of year, alas.
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I can understand limiting protests on the Mall a
I can understand limiting protests on the Mall and its vicinity for a week or so after the Inauguration, but making the restrictions last for more than a month seems ridiculous. As best I can recall, the temporary fencing and bleachers have generally been pretty much gone within a week or two.
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Don’t you get it? This will be permanent. There
Don’t you get it?  This will be permanent.  There will NEVER be protests allowed again.
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We have to find work arounds like the one TBM of
We have to find work arounds like the one TBM offered here so that we are not silenced. 
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Michigan GOP House approves big fines for ‘mass
Michigan GOP House approves big fines for ‘mass picketing’
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I hope the ACLU is in court right now filing a l
I hope the ACLU is in court right now filing a lawsuit against that one. It seems like the GOP doesn’t want protests against the newly elected criminal-in-chief. Don the con might get his feelings hurt. TOO DAMN BAD!!  Note to ACLU: if these “mass picketing” fines do hold up in court, PLEASE lets start using these fines against anti-abortion protesters, etc. 
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What do you mean “let’s”? Michigan’s administrat
What do you mean “let’s”? Michigan’s administration is Republican; the fines will be applied accordingly.
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We have the First Amendment right to do this — s
We have the First Amendment right to do this — so they may try to ban them, and if they do, we’ll challenge them in court.  
This is such a blatant violation of our Constitutional rights that we’d probably have at least 5 members of the court, even if Trump nominates someone awful — and that’s not a done deal, and Trump can’t even nominate someone until he’s in office.
Meanwhile, Obama’s been able to do a lot with the DC Circuit Court who would have jurisdiction.
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challenge them in what court? think about who co
challenge them in what court?  think about who controls the courts.
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Right now, Obama appointees control them, and Tr
Right now, Obama appointees control them, and Trump is not going to be able to change that quickly.
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Why not? All he needs to do is restore the 9th o
Why not?  All he needs to do is restore the 9th on the supreme court
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Well. the court cases are likely to be filed now
Well. the court cases are likely to be filed now, and receive hearings while Obama’s still in office.  
Trump still has to:
1) Nominate, which can’t be done until he’s actually in office, and if it proves to be as much of a circus as SecState, could take him awhile.
2) Figure out how to overcome a Senate filibuster — or convince enough Senators to go nuclear.
Things are bad enough without forgetting that we still have about six weeks of the Obama administration.
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Obama appointees control the Supreme Court?
Obama appointees control the Supreme Court?
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I’m thinking of the lower courts, especially DC
I’m thinking of the lower courts, especially DC Circuit. Sorry for the confusion.
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OK, but it will be fast tracked to the S.Ct. so
OK, but it will be fast tracked to the S.Ct. so that's the only court that counts
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Map of San Diego “Free Speech Zones” …
Map of San Diego “Free Speech Zones”
and some history
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STOP THE NAZIS—Don’t let them stop us.
STOP THE NAZIS—Don’t let them stop us.
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Look.. it did not stop them crashing the gate in …
Look.. it did not stop them crashing the gate in 2013
www.huffingtonpost.com/…  We cannot be intimidated …..They weren’t.
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I think I get it now… He is a thief.. it is his …
I think I get it now… He is a thief.. it is his coronation and the one who got the less votes… to rule us with an iron fist wants us to sit down and shut up because he said so…...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.   If people don’t stand up now and go ahead with their plans.. they may as well roll over.   This will not be covered ANYWHERE but at the inauguration and afterwards.   ON THE MALL,  In the streets… screwing up his Heil trump party.
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Agree 100%!!
Agree 100%!!
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Got that right
Got that right
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We should go to DC anyway, writing protest sloga
We should go to DC anyway, writing protest slogans on our coats and wearing large button on our outerwear (since they may confiscate signs) and just walk up and down the streets on the sidewalks in the nearby downtown business districts.  Those who care to may break into song, or begin talking loudly with one another in a rhythmic repetitive fashion, although those actions may lead to arrest for disturbing the peace, but they cannot bar people from walking on every downtown and uptown sidewalk.  Those streets need to be open and accessible because the stores and restaurants and hotels count on doing big business from inauguration visitors.  And they cannot know for sure that we are not there to shop or eat!
Great idea!
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Would they dare strip off a canvas apron with sl
Would they dare strip off a canvas apron with slogan written on it?  They cost $6-7 at craft store.  
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No, I doubt it. If you are wearing some sort of
No, I doubt it. If you are wearing some sort of clothing, they cannot remove it. 
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they can try.
they can try.
it will probably make them angry enough to strip us down in the january weather
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Yes, they may cross the line but legally, they h
Yes, they may cross the line but legally, they have to have reasonable cause (hidden bomb vest or weapon) to strip someone’s clothing off.
Or, arrest you to do a strip search. 
It’s illegal search and seizure, I believe without cause or being arrested.
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come on igualdad. if they are treating the 1st a
come on igualdad. if they are treating the 1st amendment this way, you think they are going to let the 4th amendment stop them?
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Lol. TRUE.
Lol. TRUE. 
Maybe I am being naive but if some cop tried to rip my shirt off because it had an anti-Trump slogan, I’d fucking sue them.
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LOL backatcha
LOL backatcha
good luck with that!
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Backing down is not an option. Any time the poli
Backing down is not an option. Any time the police try to railroad over our rights, we need to fight back as you know.
Not saying I’d win, but I will damn sure stand up for my rights. 
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BTW, meant to mention that I reblogged your diar
BTW, meant to mention that I reblogged your diary because I do love this idea!
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Sharpie write “I WANT MY LAWER/PHONE CALL NOW!”
Sharpie write “I WANT MY LAWER/PHONE CALL NOW!” and the name & numbers of your lawyer and ACLU on your body. I’d suggest on both arms and legs...presumably where the cuffs & restraints may be applied.
If you have time, sharpie write the 1st Amendment across your face, and 4th Amendment...well, somewhere lower.
Get your medical alert bracelets and tags updated and make sure the police are aware of them as they approach. Getting that on video might be good too. Make sure you know how to send video directly onto a cloud based resource (encrypted would be nice)...although I’m expecting they’ll be working to block  & monitor cell data.
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Yes, it’s a good idea to have your phone ready t
Yes, it’s a good idea to have your phone ready to video too and upload it in case the police confiscate your phone. With so much police abuse, it’s good to have ready.
ACLU APPS TO RECORD POLICE CONDUCT
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unfortunately not available everywhere yet
unfortunately not available everywhere yet
but I just downloaded the one for Washington DC
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it’s actually pretty easy for them to block cell
it’s actually pretty easy for them to block cell phone data.
so we should not count on having that.
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There is a new APP called FireChat that allows m
There is a new APP called FireChat that allows member to interact when cell phone data is down.
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Not that that would help you in the slightest in
Not that that would help you in the slightest in the moment.  
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Write it on your body in sharpie as well, becaus
Write it on your body in sharpie as well, because they probably will be arresting, spraying everyone as they did during king george’s inauguration and we all know boobs get more attention from this media than actual NEWS.
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It’s winter though. A cold weather strategy appl
It’s winter though. A cold weather strategy applies. Maybe if someone were to spray-paint sidewalks with stencils...
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That Canvas Apron idea above could make for wond
That Canvas Apron idea above could make for wonderful template material.
Cut out the letters of your protest statement in your apron. Worn over black or orange garment, the letters would stand out. Worn over canvas colored garment, nearly invisible.
Used to spray paint stencils just adds more color to the apron...although every might want to pick just one color to improve one’s plausible deniability.
I’m tempted to suggest orange wigs for all participants, orange face paint, and big orange glasses, maybe with IR emitters on them, to scramble facial recognition systems.
To confuse things, wear a big ‘T Party’ sign on the back. Maybe an asterisk leading to small print saying ‘Madhatten Madhatter’ at the bottom.
I’d also like to see all those wonderful promises made to workers, vets, retirees, etc. held up high on signs and banners.  Maybe spelled out in human bodies on the ground for the various drone cameras to pick up. 
I kind of like the idea of a large-scale human body LED scroll, where letters of the statement are ‘scrolled’ across an area using moving human bodies, something that likely gets media attention. This might require a bit of pre-event parade drill practice. 
Wearing lighted helmets at night so this works in the dark as well as day.  This should all be on a bigger scale than those wonderful LED signs that were so brilliantly protesting Walker in Wisconsin on freeway overpasses.  And we’ll need those laser projectors too!  All would be great to do in front of every Trump building, every state capital, Congress’s House of Representatives staff buildings, etc. If hundreds of thousands are protesting, setting up dozens of protest destinations should be easy.
FYI, I’d like to see at least one or two F* U PUTIN signs out there.
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Another fun idea. Get some orange swim floaty tu
Another fun idea. Get some orange swim floaty tubes. Make them into really long Pinocchio noses with lights in them.
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He’s very vulnerable to criticism, and makes bad
He’s very vulnerable to criticism, and makes bad decisions when faced with it. It’s quite easy to get his goat, let’s do it at every opportunity.
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Oooh! Big orange goat! Sign “Hey Donald, We Got
Oooh!  Big orange goat! Sign “Hey Donald, We Got Your Goat!”
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Flashback to the brutal Cheney/Bush Junta years
Flashback to the brutal Cheney/Bush Junta years when they created “Free Speech Zones” on empty lots surrounded by chain link fencing, all far from the event, whether it be the RNC conventions in NYCity and St.Louis, or the Free Trade protests in Miami, among others.
Actually it went much further than that, with the NYCPD and FBI infiltrating groups, locking up leadership prior to events, turning back buses loaded with protesters, corralling large groups of protesters peacefully encamped in a park with a permit while giving talks, trapped on one side by chain link fencing and surrounded by rows of riot police banging their batons on their plexiglass shields, arresting them without cause and holding them overnight, confiscating and destroying their cameras and cell phones.
At that time, I believe it was in NYCity, organizers started to adopt “random” “flash” protests where protesters were organized into cells to thwart police and their spies.  Each cell would either set up a time and place in advance or organize a meetup on the fly via cell phone.  At the designated time people would converge on the site and stage a demonstration.  As police got wind of it they would disperse.  In theory one person could belong to multiple cells and simply go from one to the other, as this happened all across the area of interest.
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I think we’re going to need something like this.
I think we’re going to need something like this.  This is a good use of the techology at our disposal, that wasn’t available during the GWB Administration. The ultra-paranoid can get a prepaid cell phone just for this.
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Guerilla warfare is what won The Revolution.
Guerilla warfare is what won The Revolution.
Surprise.
It’s what works.
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Hmm, on second thought I believe the flash prote
Hmm, on second thought I believe the flash protests came about during Occupy Wall Street when the NYCPD was trying to limit protests to a central location.  I am bad on time lines.  In 2000 when someone told me that Mt. St. Helens erupted 20 years earlier I was floored.  I could have sworn it had happened 5 years prior.  Oh well, Einstein says that past present and future all exist simultaneously, so apparently I am simply in touch with the universe.
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sounds good but I am concerned that they may blo
sounds good but I am concerned that they may block cell phone traffic that day.
we need other ways to communicate
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There is an App called FireChat for use in those
There is an App called FireChat for use in those situations.
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I can hardly believe we’re actually discussing t
I can hardly believe we’re actually discussing the US in terms like these...
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Another observation on tactics. Anything involvi
Another observation on tactics.  Anything involving a large planned event we have to assume that either the FBI or DC police will have undercover officers attending meetings.  We also must assume that all cell phone calls originating from the organizers will be monitored, along with any emails and online activity.  This is what has happened in the past.
You may think “well so what, we are doing nothing wrong”.  But if they decide that they are not comfortable with your plans they may find ways to undermine them.  I don’t know what that means in this case but that should be the operating assumption right from the start based upon all previous protests going back to Nixon at the very least.
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CafePress and Zazzle both let you print T-shirts …
CafePress and Zazzle both let you print T-shirts (front AND back) with custom text or artwork — jpg, png — you submit, as well as designs you can pick from their sites. (Mind the effect of tinted shirts on colored designs!)
Get an ultralarge size, XXXL or bigger, to fit over your coat….
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The march IS still going on. Also, there’s still
The march IS still going on.  Also, there’s still time to get this reversed! Call your elected representatives today!
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Well, my family and I are still going. That is f
Well, my family and I are still going. That is for sure, this has just made it more important.
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So what to make of this, from the spokeswoman fo
So what to make of this, from the spokeswoman for the women’s march:
“The Lincoln Memorial is not possible,” said Cassady Fendlay, spokeswoman for the women’s march on Washington. She said march organizers were not associated with the Answer Coalition, and have “had no issues with the permitting process at all”. 
“We are in conversation with the police. We have secured another location,” said Fendlay, declining to name where the march would now take place but saying it would be nearby.
Seems odd to me that she declined to identify the place, other than to say “nearby.” 
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One location? It should be happening all over DC
One location?  It should be happening all over DC including the Mall.   What would MLK have done?  What would the VN protestors done?   What did the Tea party do?
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There was always meant to be one central locatio
There was always meant to be one central location to meet up and rally, and then march in the streets. I think that’s what she means, not standing still in one place the whole time.
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Should be happening all over the country, in eve
Should be happening all over the country, in every state Capitol.
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What would MLK have done?
What would MLK have done?
Excellent question.  Look at what he did.  He would start in one city and march to another.  This gave many advantages.  Wider press coverage.  More interest — a journey has symbolic importance.  It projects action vice passivity — you are literally on a journey that has a beginning, a time of being in transition and an end point.  It readily translates into a story.  Recall that the march to Montgomery crossed a bridge where they were attacked.  That bridge and the hostile reception on the other side all had profound symbolism.
The Tea Party is irrelevant.  It was an astroturf movement, often involving a handful of people who were heavily covered by Fox News, as if they were this huge movement.  In fact they were organized and bused around by a right wing group run by Dick Armey and funded by the Koch brothers.  So unless we have our own national TV station to blow up our protest into something monumental we can ignore the Tea Party.
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Why? She’s trying to avoid having the Trump peop
Why?  She’s trying to avoid having the Trump people block their plan before she can secure the permits.  Makes perfect sense to me.
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That’s right. Some things are best announced at
That’s right. Some things are best announced at the last minute, so that the opposition doesn’t have the chance to organize.
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I make of it that there will be MANY marches in
I make of it that there will be MANY marches in DC that day. She can have hers wherever she wants. I will protest freely, however.
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Truth is they could probably fit in a local coff
Truth is they could probably fit in a local coffee shop, so no biggy for them. The main thing is the publicity and media attention.
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who could probably fit in a coffee shop?
who could probably fit in a coffee shop?
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This is the first test of our capacity to normal
This is the first test of our capacity to normalize fascism. 100,000 people show up on the Mall what are they gonna do? Shoot them all down. Women? We are not there yet, but giving in to bullshit like this is what gets us there. If folks get arrested we need to set up bail/support funds. This is pure intimidation and they are going to see if we blink. DC Police has 3,900 cops, Capitol Police has 2,200. Unless they are bringing in the Army I don’t know how they handle 100,000 people showing up and doing whatever the fuck they want. Even if they arrest 5,000 there are still 95,000 people protesting.
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We should not be naive about what they are capab
We should not be naive about what they are capable of.  If the police or FBI want to create confusion they can put a few troublemakers in the mix and create an opening for the riot police or National Guard to come in.  During the Bush years they would arrest leaders prior to the protest to create confusion. They set up road blocks to turn back buses.  They had riot police strip off groups of protesters and hold them for several hours.
When you think about all of the logistics involved in a large demonstration there are a lot of things that have to go smoothly, which means there are just as many ways to disrupt the event.
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A big part of the job of being President is that
A big part of the job of being President is that people say all kinds of things about you, make up phony stuff, send mean tweets to you,impersonate you on SNL and sometimes throw an egg at your inaugural limo.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Trump should suck it up, but he can’t.  This is our kryptonite and he getting the National Parks Service to put it in a box for him.  Its our right to throw a fucken egg and keep doing so until he curls up in a ball and they take his twitter away.
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Why not go ahead and shop and eat while there? M
Why not go ahead and shop and eat while there? More people to read your clothes and buttons. Silent protest just going about your daily business. Leave merchants happy that all the protestors came. Or is being a nuisance somehow better?
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interesting set of assumptions you have there.
interesting set of assumptions you have there.
of course we can shop and eat also.
but since you are being snarky, eating and shopping AND being a nuisance is even better.
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Dayamn, I am snark expert. I wasn’t even trying
Dayamn, I am snark expert. I wasn’t even trying to be snarky.
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i did not imply or mean to imply that we would n
i did not imply or mean to imply that we would not ALSO eat and shop
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I read it as implied, and it might be effective
I read it as implied, and it might be effective to threaten to be annoying and disrupt business in order to pressure them to open the Mall. I’m wondering which would be better. It might be more effective to mingle with everyone in town and gain support. Really, I don’t know.
I am kind of hoping that folks demonstrate in areas where we’re told not to, then after arrested, sue their rumps off for trampling on first amendment rights. OTOH, cops can so overreact to peaceful protest that it’s not worth someone getting disabled or killed over. Can a lawsuit be filed to allow free speech prior to restraint actually being imposed, since they have signaled their intentions? IANAL.
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just that many people on the sidewalks will be d
just that many people on the sidewalks will be disruptive.
I don’t recall saying anything about being annoying.   maybe you can tell me where you get that from.
it will be too late on 1/20 to pressure them to open the Mall.  but it may discourage them from denying future permits to protest on the Mall.  This demonstration is likely to be the first of many.
I am kind of hoping that folks demonstrate in areas where we’re told not to, then after arrested, sue their rumps off for trampling on first amendment rights.
I keep seeing people suggest this but I do not understand it.  Sue whom?  The police department?
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Disrupting = annoying. …
Disrupting = annoying.
I actually have now read on another thread that they are suing in advance to obtain the right to demonstrate. They sue the federal government for interfering with free speech rights.
Here it is: They're suing the Secret Service (for denial of the inauguration route) and Department of the Interior (because it was the NPS that denied permits at the Mall and memorials at the request of the PIC): assets.documentcloud.org/
If the permits were denied and you protested anyway and were arrested, again IANAL, but I imagine you would sue the police in addition to the above folks who denied you the permit. Because if permits are illegal restraints of free speech, then enforcement of them is illegal. The police should not be enforcing illegal restraints. But the point would be to obtain agreements from all sides that future free speech would not be interfered with. Any monetary award would come from the deep pockets. Ideally, trace the orders all the way back to the thin-skinned Trump and make him pay out of his own pocket.
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but i did not say anything about intentionally d
but i did not say anything about intentionally disrupting businesses—the disruption would be only a side effect of people assembling on the public sidewalks instead of at the Mall.  not going into businesses and singing/chanting there, but milling about on the public sidewalks instead of being allowed to go to any of the big open spaces downtown
since i wrote this people are reporting that a permit has been allowed for 3rd and Constitution, and I hope that is what has happened.  if I was being paranoid about them trying to keep protesters away from all the large public spaces then I will be happy to be wrong.
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Oh, okay. It would depend on how it goes. If peo
Oh, okay. It would depend on how it goes. If people are just walking back and forth, some of whom may decide to buy/eat, then I’d think businesses would be happy about that. If people mill about in huge clusters that block one specific location right in front of a business’ doors so no one can go in, then I’d think they would be unhappy about that. But IIRC, DC has lots of people on the sidewalks most of the time, between workers and protestors and tourists for one thing or another, so crowded sidewalks won’t bother patrons as long as it’s not a blocking cluster.
I just looked that up on Google Maps, 3rd and Constitution is at one corner of the Mall, near the Capitol and not too far from the Newseum and National Gallery of Art. So not too bad but not ideal. Opposite end from the Lincoln Memorial, Washington Monument kind of in the middle with the WH over to one side. If you want to be seen from the WH, the W Monument is the place to be. You’re pretty close to Congress, though.
I don’t think you’re paranoid, there were several diaries on this same subject. Maybe all the immediate social media outrage made them decide to provide a space.
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Yes, I know where 3rd and Constitution is. Techn
Yes, I know where 3rd and Constitution is.  Technically it is not part of the Mall.  I grew up in DC and know the whole downtown area well.
There are always a LOT more people on the street on Inauguration Day and most downtown businesses see it as a boon.  But the sidewalks in the downtown business district east of the White House are not very wide.  Even a group of 12 or 15 could effectively block a sidewalk just by standing around trying to decide where to go to eat.
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No, the location isn’t ideal, but other organiza
No, the location isn’t ideal, but other organizations requested permits first for the areas the march organizers wanted to use. First come, first served.
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Actually, during large marches, many places will
Actually, during large marches, many places will NOT let protestors in to buy things, use the restroom, etc. Perhaps you haven’t been there but I wish I was not telling the truth. It’s a conservative town. Since when is voicing one’s opposition to its government “being a nuisance”. It’s a founding principle of this nation.
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I went to DC for a protest, but it was decades a
I went to DC for a protest, but it was decades ago. I don’t remember it very clearly, but probably didn’t have money to test your theory.
I went to Louisville for a DAPL protest, but we mostly stayed outside the government building and the Army COE building. I used the facilities there, didn’t stay long enough to want to buy anything, so still didn’t test your theory.
It wouldn’t be protesting that’s a nuisance — at least you’re right, it shouldn’t be. It would be more if you’re not going to buy anything and block sidewalks, store doors, and/or streets, interfering with business, chasing customers away, as they see it.
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Maybe not to use the restroom (few places do tha
Maybe not to use the restroom (few places do that nowadays) but believe me businesses will not turn away paying customers.
Voicing one’s opposition to the government IS being a nuisance, but it is a constitutionally protected nuisance.
At least for now...
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Remember the breaking the gate at the mall by th …
Remember the breaking the gate at the mall by the tea party?   Ahhh yeah…..   
That happened …. I do not remember anyone getting arrested.
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Exactly!!!
Exactly!!!
TEAR DOWN THE WALL!!
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They should march there anyway. What will the po
They should march there anyway. What will the police do, use tear gas and rubber bullets?
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sure why wouldn’t they
sure why wouldn’t they
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And pepper spray.
And pepper spray.
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I posted on the March’s national FB page that th
I posted on the March’s national FB page that the Inauguration Committee has a choice: release permits for a massive march or deny them for a massive civil disobedience demonstration. If they're smart, they'll choose the former. 
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Us their own protests and words against them !!!!!
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 Us their own protests and words against them !!!!!
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IOKIYAAR,
IOKIYAAR,
OBVIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!
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Presumably the Park Service is still under Democ
Presumably the Park Service is still under Democratic control until January 20, not sure why this administration is bending over backwards to protect Trump.
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These was an article in the Guardian about this.
These was an article in the Guardian about this. of course I had to read it in a UK paper first. Hello out there, “Media”, what the fuck??
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agreed-disgusted here as well.
agreed-disgusted here as well.
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Yes, the Guardian article is linked in the diary.
Yes, the Guardian article is linked in the diary.
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Protesters, keep it peaceful. Don’t play into th
Protesters, keep it peaceful.  Don’t play into their hands. Violence will only fuel support for the third-degree felony law, and might even prompt the POTUS-elect to declare martial law once in office, keeping him there indefinitely.
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I saw violence at every Trump event or “rally”…. …
I saw violence at every Trump event or “rally”…..didn’t seem to hurt them did it.
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Though I do agree, Violence isn’t the way to go
Though I do agree, Violence isn’t the way to go in large groups at all.
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Martial law is unenforceable unless we roll over
Martial law is unenforceable unless we roll over and comply.  I suspect a declaration would result in even more people spilling on to the streets.
If Drumpf were to disregard posse commitatus, there aren’t enough police, National Guardsmen, Army, and Marines to make martial law stick in a country this size.  The United States military couldn’t pacify Iraq, a country the size of California, so it would be even less successful here.  Even bringing home every soldier deployed abroad (which would take time and leave hotspots vulnerable) wouldn’t give Drumpf sufficient force to pull it off.  While some soldiers would certainly follow orders without question, enough would think twice about firing on their fellow citizens to cause localized breakdowns in military discipline.
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You are assuming that such a declaration of mart
You are assuming that such a declaration of martial law would be limited to being enforced by infantry on the ground, that would not likely be the case.  Do you have any idea what just a single BUFF carrying conventional bombs could do to a neighborhood?  Or carrying thermobaric bombs could do to a good chunk of a city?  Or hell, what even a single M270 MLRS truck can do?
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I’m making no such assumption. Let me be more sp
I’m making no such assumption.  Let me be more specific.  The United States military could not pacify Iraq despite hundreds of thousands of boots on the ground, countless sorties from bombers launched from land bases and aircraft carriers, and God knows how many cruise missiles lobbed from destroyers, cruisers, and submarines.  Remember “shock and awe?”
My point stands.  Some will follow orders without question, others will think twice about firing on their fellow citizens.
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let me let you in on a little secret:
let me let you in on a little secret:
even if all of us keep it peaceful, there is no way to stop Rcon provocateurs from inciting violence or committing it themselves so they can blame it on us.
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Which he is very likely to do anyways, but we su
Which he is very likely to do anyways, but we sure don’t need to do anything to fuel that fire.  But I agree completely, any marches/protests/call them what you will *must* be entirely peaceful.
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Let the facism begin!
Let the facism begin!
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Here’s the sad truth: It doesn’t really matter.
Here’s the sad truth:  It doesn’t really matter.  Marches and demonstrations are passe now, barely covered on TV.  This may sound ghoulish, but maybe having a demonstration ban would be a good thing, because violating it and getting arrested is probably the only way to get media attention.
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It’s going to be hard to ignore 100K people walk
It’s going to be hard to ignore 100K people walking the streets of Washington, and impossible for the police to arrest all of them.
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Media mostly ignored the Iraq war protests. It w
Media mostly ignored the Iraq war protests. It will only get covered if Trump tweets about it.
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Agree with that — but this is different. It’s Tr
Agree with that — but this is different.  It’s Trump’s Inauguration Weekend and the projected crowds are massive.
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Didn’t make a difference during Georgie porgie's
Didn’t make a difference during Georgie porgie's inauguration. They underestimated numbers and hardly covered it at all. The media has gone even more downhill since then.
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He’s not going to be able to resist tweeting abo
He’s not going to be able to resist tweeting about it.
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THIS
THIS
he will either tweet about he thwarted us, or he will tweet about how disrespectful we were, but one way or another he will not be able to stop himself from tweeting
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Yes — this is exactly why we need to do it. Ever
Yes — this is exactly why we need to do it.  Every moment he spends obsessed with protesters is a moment he’s distracted from doing something worse.
And if he’s going to institute fascism, let’s make him do it quickly so that it’s harder to normalize.
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And if he’s going to institute fascism, let’s ma
And if he’s going to institute fascism, let’s make him do it quickly so that it’s harder to normalize.
I think I’m going to have to think about this for awhile.
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Very good point.
Very good point. 
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I think you are right, and that’s the power of i
I think you are right, and that’s the power of it.
I still think Twitter carries a lot of political power, maybe more than the MSM.
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no it won’t, and no it won’t.
no it won’t, and no it won’t.
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100,000 people will be swallowed up by the massi
100,000 people will be swallowed up by the massive crowd there to celebrate the inauguration.
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bottom line, we need a LOT MORE than 100,000 peo
bottom line, we need a LOT MORE than 100,000 people to make an impact.
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My personal idea at the moment is to go with a r
My personal idea at the moment is to go with a republican friend who has a ticket to a gala in a twinkly black gown and drop it as trump comes in with the words: Dump Trump on my nekkid body. So far, two repubs with tickets are positive for it...even one who voted for him. My point: There are many ways to protest. Boobs and Blood get media attention...I don’t support spilling blood but I do support getting media coverage and agree that the media we have now is NOT about covering news.
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That’s an insanely courageous and great idea.
That’s an insanely courageous and great idea.
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I’m in. I had already planned to go.
I’m in.  I had already planned to go.
But it will work best if it’s posted to the Facebook page, etc. for the official event, so someone (not me) needs to do that.
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I think this will serve to make the march even b
I think this will serve to make the march even bigger.
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What the actual hell. Still going.
What the actual hell. Still going.
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Come January 20 2017 and the inauguration of Tru
Come January 20 2017 and the inauguration of Trump will be the start of the second Russian revolution. Putin will rejoice as the puppet master of Trump and his proletariat of white working class males. I think by July 2017, when it’s 100 years since Lenin’s armed revolutionaries came out in huge numbers to the streets of Petrograd, it will all be done. The new USSA will be declared a new territory of the new USSR. Steve Bannon, the Lenninist, will be so proud.
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And I have a question...Who gave a permit or per
And I have a question...Who gave a permit or permission for John Lewis to be spat upon?
While the likes of some congresscritters cheered from the windows?  These are questions I would be asking because it is not just tea partiers who can protest.
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What kind of malarkey is this? Putin is a right-
What kind of malarkey is this? Putin is a right-wing nationalist; he’s no disciple of Lenin, notwithstanding his history with the KGB. Putin is hand in glove with the most reactionary forces in Russia, the Orthodox Church first and foremost.
If you think Steve Bannon is a Leninist, you need to read more Lenin.
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Bannon is a Leninist in the sense that he feels
Bannon is a Leninist in the sense that he feels the state needs to be destroyed  then rebuilt. I think from what I have read of Bannon’s quotes on Lenin is that he took something from his destruction of the state as the ultimate revolution, blah, blah. I don’t know what writings he was pulling his mishmash ideology from but reminded me of something in The State and Revolution minus the anarchist vs Marxist dialogue and the actual ideals and fully formed thoughts.
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100,000 heading straight to the Lincoln Memorial …
100,000 heading straight to the Lincoln Memorial can’t be stopped without some sort of Tiananmen-Square-level intervention.  In some ways, this is better.  Marches are easily ignored by the MSM.  Mass Civil Disobedience, not so much.  May as well get this show going from Day One….
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Recall what happened to the Bonus March in July,
Recall what happened to the Bonus March in July, 1932.
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Yep, and now that have stuff that is far more de
Yep, and now that have stuff that is far more deadly.  Just a single salvo from a M270 MLRS truck would probably be enough.  Remember, each truck can fire 12 rockets at a time and each rocket carries 644 submunitions.  They are called “grid square erasers” for a reason.
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There is enough tear gas and battons in DC to st
There is enough tear gas and battons in DC to stop that hon. Trust me, six police agencies and sharp shooters on roofs, some with rubber bullets (they hurt — trust me) and some with real ones put a stop to that movement real quick.
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ya oughta quit calling folks hon and honny.
ya oughta quit calling folks hon and honny.
No one here is your little hon.
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Better bring a mask then. And if you are worried
Better bring a mask then. And if you are worried stay at home.The ONLY way this works is to a massive presence. Look up the history of mass movements.
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Much as I hate protestors blocking traffic, if n
Much as I hate protestors blocking traffic, if necessary take over the Beltway.
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Actually, the best target of the actions isn’t T
Actually, the best target of the actions isn’t Trump but the MSM.  Make their life hell.  It worked well for conservatives.  The MSM doesn’t deign to drive on highways with the peons, they’ll just go in by helicopter.  But if you make them the news story...and Trump doesn’t get any of the coverage he craves.
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So... Massive coordinated hat signs? Like maybe
So... Massive coordinated hat signs? Like maybe from helicopter level you would be able to see that the tops of everyone's hats spell DumpTrump or some such when everyone stands together. Make it impossible to miss in the flyover.
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And having 10,000 demonstrators peaceably but lo
And having 10,000 demonstrators peaceably but loudly surround the MSM support vehicles.  “Loudly” means things like impolite and personally insulting remarks aimed at the network’s talking heads.  They may be able to keep it off the air but it takes its toll, and the talking heads are our enemies.
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ONOZ NOT BLOCKING TRAFFIC
ONOZ NOT BLOCKING TRAFFIC
WHAT WILL WE TELL THE CHILDREN
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Awwww, this made me smile...must be time to go n
Awwww, this made me smile...must be time to go now on a high note. You got it sister!
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Love that!!!
Love that!!!
I think it would be GREAT if everybody were holding that sign.
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I may even make one of those myself.
I may even make one of those myself.
I’ll be on the streets in Albuquerque!
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In CA we’ve had too many cases where the protest
In CA we’ve had too many cases where the protestors take over the freeways during rush hour.  I don’t approve of that.  But if you can’t get a permit to protest in DC, I don’t see what else can be done. 
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ONOZ NOT RUSH HOUR
ONOZ NOT RUSH HOUR
HOW WILL I EXPLAIN THIS TO MY DAUGHTER
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OK, well guess what — FUCK YOU! People are going
OK, well guess what — FUCK YOU! People are going to go to DC and make their free-speech opinions known. Want to arrest them all? Just try it, motherfuckers. I “been there, done that” in the 60’s. People are WAY more radical and brave now. Go to it! As He Who Shall Not Be Named said to the non-white population, “What do you have to lose?”
Me, I’ll be there as an individual — is that a demonstration, or just a citizen expressing free speech? — and I intend to stand and turn my back on the Inthuguration. They can make of it what they want, but as far as I’m concerned that’s no “demonstration,” that’s just ME. Fuck ya Right-Wing sons-a-bitches. Anyone wants to join me in turning their backs? Be my guest, just don’t stand too close so we don’t get accused of mobbing for an illegal “demonstration.”
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Agree, I think a whole lot of “turning their bac
Agree, I think a whole lot of “turning their backs” is completely in store.
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I suspect that this will get litigated. The Oran
I suspect that this will get litigated.  The Orange Haired One will not have been able to make any judicial appointments, so the likelihood of this standing up in court is nil.
And the more he tries to prevent it, the more it becomes news, and therefore harder for the MSM to block out.
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It’s why we belong to the ACLU, for just situati
It’s why we belong to the ACLU, for just situations such as this. 
We were at Prez Obama’s first inauguration.  Temp chain link fence and snow fences were trampled down by the crowd.  Everyone was in a good mood, helping one another.  Especially the ladies from New Orleans, who didn’t have warm enough coats & mittens.  (I gave them a spare pair). 
One of the groups lining up for the 2008 parade were a group of Indians, on horses, in beautiful formal headdresses.  I hope groups such as they, withdraw from the parade. Gov’ment groups such as military, police, Park Service may not have a choice; but wouldn’t it be wonderful to see others, for whom it is an option, decline to participate??
There was absolutely no reason to close areas for months then for ‘construction and/or destruction’.  This hasn’t happened for 40+ previous events.   
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No legitimate reason, but definitely a reason.
No legitimate reason, but definitely a reason.
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It’s not an abridgement of speech...the Governme
It’s not an abridgement of speech...the Government can place reasonable time, place and manner restrictions on things like protests.
I don’t know if Trump is involved with this decision, but either way I can’t blame the NPS for not wanting the inauguration to turn into a clust*rfuck.  The people who are there to enjoy the inauguration have a right to enjoy the inauguration.  DC is enough a nightmare during inauguration week without adding massive protests to it.
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Oh, that’s just the last straw Pi-Pi — get lost.
Oh, that’s just the last straw Pi-Pi — get lost. (Man, you do NOT want to see what I almost posted!) If not a troll, you certainly have all the virtual qualities. You are a moron (Oh, so politically incorrect for all the ree-rees out there).
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I stopped replying to him/her days ago. . .
I stopped replying to him/her days ago. . .
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I’m a “moron.”
I’m a “moron.”
How eloquent. I’m sure someone will come along and uprate this.
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Good ol’ English word, glad you got it dumpkopf.
Good ol’ English word, glad you got it dumpkopf.
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you misspelled MORAN
you misspelled MORAN
morans.jpg
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Sorry, I stand corected. Pi-Pi is a MORAN.
Sorry, I stand corected. Pi-Pi is a MORAN.
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What’s your excuse then for ([paraphrasing) “no
What’s your excuse then for ([paraphrasing) “no protests allowed from now through March 1 and possibly longer”? 
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“My” excuse?
“My” excuse?
What is the reason the National Park Service gives?  The NPS is well respected, and is regarded as completely non-partisan. I don’t have any reason to believe, or evidence, that the things they’ve laid out are not legitimate.
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Yes. You always without fail have an excuse for
Yes.  You always without fail have an excuse for Trump and any other Republican.
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How is saying I think what the United States Nat
How is saying I think what the United States National Park service is doing makes sense and “excuse” from Trump?
Odd.
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So you think a months long block is a “reasonabl
So you think a months long block is a “reasonable time, place and manner restrictions on things like protests.”
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Well, here’s NPS’s reasoning, from the linked ar
Well, here’s NPS’s reasoning, from the linked article:
It’s partly a practical issue. Inauguration bleachers and viewing stands started being erected on 1 November and it will take until 1 March to completely clear the major public spaces from all of the inauguration works, said Mike Litterst, spokesman for the NPS.
“They’re construction zones, effectively,” said Litterst.
So you have reason to believe that NPS, is, what? Suppressing free speech on Trump’s behalf? Do you have any evidence that their motivation is anything other than the practical considerations they’ve outlined? 
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The only evidence I have is the absurdly long ti
The only evidence I have is the absurdly long time they are saying it will take to clear it. Do you have any evidence that shows this amount of time is typical or reasonable?
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Well, no. I have no idea. But I don’t have that
Well, no. I have no idea. But I don’t have that kind of expertise, so I’d have to defer to the experts on that.
Like the ones at NPS. My understanding is they have experience in this sort of thing.
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They haven’t claimed the need to restrict gather
They haven’t claimed the need to restrict gatherings after more than 50 such events in the past.  And President Obama’s first Inauguration in 2008, which drew huge numbers of celebrants, welcomed everyone.  We didn’t need to protest the day afterwards, but went to national art galleries, and the National Archives (to see the Constitution and DoI) as did many others. 
No other gatherings allowed, but yet the Trump camp wants to land a helicopter on the Mall or WH lawn?????
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A conspiracy by the National Park Service to sup
A conspiracy by the National Park Service to suppress the free speech rights of protestors because Trump.
This is the kind of think we used to mock Republicans over. And rightly so.
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It’s no conspiracy. It is someone ‘inside’ knowi
It’s no conspiracy.  It is someone ‘inside’ knowing that permits have to be secured, and by doing it a year in advance, they were insuring as little outward dissent as needed, if it would be needed.  They could  always cancel the request, or stage their own demos if H. Clinton won. 
This is the kind of think we used to mock Republicans over. And rightly so.
The Repukelicans use every dirty trick and trap in the book.  The NPS is probably afraid — not a conspiracy, just operations as usual.  Dems and Independents are much better at mocking — Repukelicans are much better at authoritarian punishment and being sneaky.
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YES. I have a rational basis that would surpass
YES. I have a rational basis that would surpass strict scrutiny honny.
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It’s never taken that long before….troll
It’s never taken that long before….troll
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Do you have any evidence that their motivation i
Do you have any evidence that their motivation is anything other than the practical considerations they’ve outlined? 
Yes.
It does not usually take that long to build or tear down the reviewing stands.
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The evidence? How about the fact that it has nev
The evidence?  How about the fact that it has never in the entire history of this country taken anywhere remotely near that long to break down the bleachers and so on after the inauguration?  It would be *impossible* for it to take that long even if they were working fairly slowly. 
DC does this every 4 years remember, plus on other special occasions, and they are *very* efficient about getting things all wrapped up and put away within a matter of *days* after the event.
Oh, yeah, and the evidence of my own eyes when I lived there and attended an inauguration, then drove around right afterwards.  I don't think anything was closed to traffic for more than a day or so tops. Sorry, Pi Li, this is suppression of free speech, plain and simple.  Fascism. There is no way to interpret it as anything else.
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who knows what Pi Li actually thinks. shytstirri
who knows what Pi Li actually thinks.  shytstirring seems like the real goal.
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Well, perhaps. If they are working in that area,
Well, perhaps. If they are working in that area, it’s reasonable to limit protests until they’ve completed the work.  And there are plenty of other areas in DC for people to protest and have their voices heard.
Thats’s what time, place and manner restrictions are. There are some places that you’re not allowed to protest at all. So if there’s a legitimate reason to restrict the protests, and the NPS applies the restrictions neutrally, I don’t see what the problem is.
That said, I’m sure this decision will be challenged, and we’ll see what the courts have to say about it. 
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NPS is NOT respected. In fact, their horses are
NPS is NOT respected. In fact, their horses are respected but they are a bunch of clowns.
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I seriously disagree.
I seriously disagree.
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Hey I’m new and even I’m tired of you.
Hey I’m new and even I’m tired of you.
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you learn fast :-)
you learn fast :-)
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So Police State operations are beginning earlier
So Police State operations are beginning earlier than anticipated.  Welcome to Trump World.
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SUE the government. This is clearly unconstituti
SUE the government.  This is clearly unconstitutional 
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Quite seriously, folks — do not be intimidated b
Quite seriously, folks — do not be intimidated by this bullshit. You can go anywhere you want in this beautiful country and say whatever you want. THEY have to spend court time telling you otherwise and WE have good lawyers. March, speak, protest, activate, resist, defy, oppose, obstruct, mock, sing, do whatever you can non-violently, . . and, if the fascism gets as violent as it may, then  . . . well, you know the story. It’s not just this country, the future of the world hangs on this turning point.
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Why is Obama’s National Park Service doing this?
Why is Obama’s National Park Service doing this?
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I just called them. See my reply below.
I just called them. See my reply below.
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Exactly. You just saw reality. Others here are s
Exactly. You just saw reality. Others here are saying "Why is Trump doing this?" He ain't president yet, folks. Consider this your final shanking by the Obama Administration.
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It’s NOT “obama’s NPS”. It’s an independent agen
It’s NOT “obama’s NPS”. It’s an independent agency...at least as independent as a police agency gets. Why was the FBI re-investigating something they already investigated right before the election. Why were people swayed by a reality tv guy who literally advocated sexual assault and appears to have a closer bond with his daughter than his wife? Why? Because they can.
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I’ve been pissed anyway, but now I’m double-down
I’ve been pissed anyway, but now I’m double-down angry.  I live nearby DC and have done for decades—never before as far as I can remember has this happened.  And who in the world “got to” the NPS?  Really?  What in the hell is wrong with these folks?  Right to assemble?  Freedom of speech?  Right to be heard?
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Winter Coat Suggestions:
Winter Coat Suggestions:
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Clinton 65,534,951
Trump 62,858,281
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Make America Graft Again
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In 2000 they didn’t confiscate signs they just b
In 2000 they didn’t confiscate signs they just barred anyone found to have one, so the same will probably go for jackets, unless the jacket is reversible, but you can always fold up a sign as well.
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they did confiscate signs on sticks, claiming th
they did confiscate signs on sticks, claiming the sticks could be weapons
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Paging Lawrence Lessig, Lawrence Tribe-you said
Paging Lawrence Lessig, Lawrence Tribe-you said you would provide pro bono services, I think now would be a good time.  This is completely unacceptable. 
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Yes, a clear violation of the 1st Amendment. Now
Yes, a clear violation of the 1st Amendment.  Now is the time for the protest groups to sue the Park Service in the DC Circuit Court.  I believe their makeup is a Dem. majority and with the SC divided 4 & 4, a DC Circuit ruling should stand. 
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You do understand that libral ideals still stand
You do understand that libral ideals still stand for judicial impartiality regardless of race, religion, or creed and that many judges who are Democrats take the integrity of their duties seriously.
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they offered their services to the Hamilton Elec
they offered their services to the Hamilton Electors but I would like to see them get on this as well
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Says who?
Says who?
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The corporate take over of our Government is now
The corporate take over of our Government is now quite complete and they will not allow dissent about it.  We are supposed to just keep bleating our baa-baa sounds where no one can see us.  They know the truth.  The truth is that nearly half of citizens find their system so repugnant, they didn’t even vote. AND, of those leftover, a MINORITY voted this group in to office.  That represents extreme danger for them.  They are powerful freaks of mathematics.
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This strikes me as incredibly stupid, for the ve
This strikes me as incredibly stupid, for the very reason you cite: people who wish to go to Washington and protest will do so, and without a designated, controlled space, the chances of protests being disruptive increase.
These guys are dumber than the Junior Bush League, who at least came up with the “First Amendment zone” hogwash.
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They may be hoping for an increase in disruption
They may be hoping for an increase in disruptions. That’s not at all an uncommon attitude towards protesters. 
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Might want take a look at how NPS dealt with pro …
Might want take a look at how NPS dealt with protests at previous inaugurations, say those of Bush 2 and Obama.
This is a description of some of the protests at Obama’s second inauguration.
It’s about what you would expect. Note, ANSWER coalition went to court over NPS restrictions and won, but it was too late to affect the inauguration itself. 
In addition Inaugurations are National Special Security Events which in effect suspends the Constitution for the duration. The NPS is going too far, however, in their efforts to quash demonstrations for months. 
Take them to court. Now. 
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that’s not exactly the situation. The NPS blocke
that’s not exactly the situation. The NPS blocked the space 10 months ago and it’s standard for them to do that. Once the PIC decides what they need, they tell NPS.  The situation here is, this PIC, in contrast to past PICs, still has not let NPS know what they need and don’t need, so the whole block still stands until they do.
The scuttle about the Women’s March is, the rally at the Lincoln Memorial has been denied and they’re trying to work out an alternate location.
They can deny permits for the rally all they want but they can’t stop us from marching, you don’t need a permit for that.
Of course, like all things in Trumplandia, the situation is fluid.
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I just called the National Parks office. Numbers
I just called the National Parks office. Numbers are at the bottom of this reply if you want to call too.
The agent I spoke to said this was the normal process, that they're treating this protest group no differently than any other protest group. I didn't get his name, but the agent was a middle-aged-sounding man with a medium-pitched voice, low tenor.
First he brought up the construction zone bit-- said on average it takes about 10 days to clear out the equipment post-inauguaration. 10 days-- not a month! I told him so, for cleanup they did not need to block until March 1st. He said, "what if there's a blizzard?" I said, still doesn't justify a month.
He said something about the first-come, first-serve basis of permit application for the Nat'l Mall-- he talked about the NPS' policy of preferential reservation for the federal government-- is looks like the T***p transition team simply got there before we did? That would not be a surprise. So far-- uh oh, looks like the man I spoke to likes to hide behind "the process" and has some ready excuses for what's going on.
I asked him if the size of the protest was the main factor, because this is going to be a lot bigger than other anti-inaugural protests. The agent said no.
I then told him the NPS' decision looked bad, that it made them look like cowards. I asked the agent if anyone in his department had been pressured by the T***p transition team. He said no. I told him regardless, that's what it's going to look like. That anything like this is going to look like the NPS rolled over.
I also told him about bad bosses, (exemplified by the incoming WH occupant) about how they consider disagreement a firing offense. But also, how they use "the process" against those who dissent. How they use "the process", and even normal social behavior, against those they do not like, in a very subtle manner. I asked the agent to remember his own experience with a bad boss.
Anyway-- if you want to call the NPS, here's their number:
(202) 208-6843
There's even a special division of the NPS for the National Mall. Their number is:
(203) 205-4675.
I got the voice mail of a Nancy Murray.
The important points are: their decision does not look good, no matter how according to established process it may be, and remember that a bad boss uses rules, procedures and norms against people they wish to punish.
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I love it-”what if there is a blizzard”. For DC
I love it-”what if there is a blizzard”. For DC an inch of snow is a “blizzard” — everything shuts down, including most government agencies. Glad you posted this though. I don’t have the patience required to call them now...but when I gather it up and don’t feel the need to curse them out, I will call.
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Yes. What if? If T***p has to to be inaugurated
Yes. What if? If T***p has to to be inaugurated one can hope there's are whiteout conditions for the occasion. 
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True, a blizzard would be AWESOME!!!
True, a blizzard would be AWESOME!!!
Come on, Ceiling Kitty!
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Thank you for this comment and for your call.
Thank you for this comment and for your call.
Namaste.
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It will be interesting seeing how they handle ar
It will be interesting seeing how they handle arresting and detaining a half a million people on January 21st. This will not stand.
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TBM—Interesting point here in Salon; it appears
TBM—Interesting point here in Salon; it appears the pro-life March scheduled for the mall on January 27 is unaffected.
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hmmm. that IS interesting!
hmmm.  that IS interesting!
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hit post too soon
hit post too soon
if we can prove content based discrimination, we have a better chance in the courts, assuming the courts are fair, which is a big assumption.
the forced birth people have a demonstration every January.  of course no one will stand in their way.
Hey--let’s ask for a permit claiming to be the T-Potty and maybe we can get a permit that way!
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But OF COURSE IT IS. Save the babies, forget abo
But OF COURSE IT IS. Save the babies, forget about the children and adults.
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I just saw this on Facebook from NPS.
I just saw this on Facebook from NPS.
STATEMENT REGARDING PERMITS ON THE NATIONAL MALL IN WASHINGTON, DC DURING THE INAUGURATION:
Providing the space required for the Presidential inauguration, while also accommodating the free speech rights of protesters and supporters, is a longstanding responsibility for the National Park Service. The National Park Service continues to work with the Gathering for Justice (also commonly referred to as the Women’s March on Washington) and has identified locations where the group can hold its event on January 21. The National Park Service has not denied their permit to use the Lincoln Memorial and will continue to work with all of those who have permit requests pending for that space on January 21.
The Lincoln Memorial may not be available for additional permitted events on January 21 because the Presidential Inaugural Committee (PIC) and the American Constitution Society put in permits for that space before the Gathering for Justice group. When there is a conflict of time and location for events on the National Mall, precedence is established by the order in which the permit application was received. The PIC may choose to release the Lincoln Memorial space on January 21, and if that happens, the space could be made available for other permits.
It is the longstanding practice of the National Park Service to create an application on behalf of the PIC in advance of the inauguration, in order to start the complex planning process for inauguration. 
The Lincoln Memorial is among the sites permitted to the PIC to stage the inaugural opening celebration and the PIC permit would have been issued for this timeframe, regardless of which candidate had won the election.
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Thank you!!!
Thank you!!!
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This is essentially an extension of H.R. 347, si
This is essentially an extension of H.R. 347, signed into law by Obama
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What's that?
What's that? 
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Last time I checked, Obama was still president.
Last time I checked, Obama was still president.  And the NPS reports to him.  Why is this happening?
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Because Obama has an authoritarian streak that i
Because Obama has an authoritarian streak that is really uncomfortable for Democrats to admit. Remember, his last action as a US Senator was voting to give the big telecoms immunity for the illegal spying they conducted under the Bush Administration.
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Civil disobedience fully in order: it is imperat
Civil disobedience fully in order: it is imperative to march on DC, and I plan to. I thought originally perhaps to stay in California. Now, I believe I will just go to DC instead. I have family nearby I can stay with and often do.   I do not want to participate in an alternative plan because I am not interested in enabling Trump in any way, shape, or form. I believe it has reached a point where our voices and presence must be heard and clear.  
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I live just outside DC and went to Obama’s inaug
I live just outside DC and went to Obama’s inauguration and protested Bush’s 2nd and they usually build bleachers and stands near the Capitol (around the Capitol up to 3rd st), and along the roads the motorcade will travel down.  I’ve never seen bleachers and viewing stands built for an inauguration on the mall between 3rd street and the Lincoln memorial. They built Arbitron style viewing screens all along the mall, but no stands or bleachers.  None of that would inhibit a protest action.  So, this is just bullshit.
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I rented a white car and used black shoe polish
I rented a white car and used black shoe polish to write “SHAME ON JUDGE WARREN” on it and drove all over Rockland County, New York for a week as other cars honked in approval and people waved.  I wore a sweatshirt that was decorated with “FORT BENNING GEORGIA, SHAME ON CHILD MOLESTERS!” to 14 tours of the Pentagon; nobody could stop me.  Whenever anybody asked me what it meant I explained, and half of them met me afterwards for a description of the case wherein a colonel who was head of the marksmanship unit had been nailed by the CID for molesting four children, but his CO would not court martial him.  I wrote “JUDGE WARREN SUPPORTS RAPE” in white-out on a black silk jacket that I wore to Marcia Rimland’s funeral in New York and nobody could make me take it off, and journalists reported on it.  I am planning which coat to decorate for January 21, when I will enjoy the sights in Washington DC.  Particularly outside the building that displays the First Amendment.
Perhaps the bright blue wool coat with white letters.  Red scarf and gloves. 
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red white and blue!
red white and blue!
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FOREVER.
FOREVER.
And in high school I was in the color guard.
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...and now the trumpists will point to the lack
...and now the trumpists will point to the lack of protests during the inauguration as direct evidence of his popularity and mandate.
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This will stand because 9/11 and Boston Marathon
This will stand because 9/11 and Boston Marathon. Watch, This congress is going to try to pass some sh1t that'll put the Patriots Act to shame.
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Obama signed this law in Mar, 2012
Obama signed this law in Mar, 2012
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Well, another large protest site could be in NYC
Well, another large protest site could be in NYC where the other White House will be.  
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From Time magazine website 23 hours ago…...”Mike …
From Time magazine website 23 hours ago…...”Mike Litterst, a spokesman for the National Park Service, said the public will not be barred from these spaces, since they will be open for inaugural events. He also noted that the Presidential Inauguration Committee’s permits were filed a year in advance, 10 months before the organizers of the Women’s March on Washington filed a permit for the Lincoln Memorial — and permits are generally issued on a “first come, first serve” basis.
The Women’s March on Washington was organized for Jan. 21, the day following the inauguration and was set to be held at the Lincoln Memorial. According to a Facebook event, over 136,000 people are due to attend. Litterst said the National Park Service is currently working with the march’s organizers to find an alternative space for people to gather. He said the regulations being used for the 2017 inauguration do not differ from the rules used for the past two inauguration ceremonies since the current rules came into effect in 2008, before Barack Obama’s first inauguration the following year.”
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This must be fake news.
This must be fake news.
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which is?
which is?
oh yeah, that’s right, I am supposed to be.
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Fuck Trump. Fuck the permits. Fuck playing by th
Fuck Trump. Fuck the permits. Fuck playing by the rules, the ones that brought the gilded reich.
The streets belong to the people. The people belong in the streets. 
You don’t need a first amendment petting zoo. You don’t need rows of shiny portapotties. You don’t need attractive, professionally made handbills. You don’t need a stage full of celebrities.
Every block in D.C. has a nice wide sidewalk stretching from the building facades to the curb.
FILL THOSE SIDEWALKS UP. 
Get off our asses and out of our comfort zones. Get off of Facebook. Do something real. Get yourself to D.C. Stand up. Represent. 
Won’t it be difficult? Yes. Expensive? Yes, but if you think bus fare to D.C. is costly, you want to try living in subjugation? 
Might it be dangerous? Especially given the Trumpers’ propensity for anger, and sometimes violence? Yes. So travel in groups, or hook up with other like-minded people at the scene.If you have a smartphone, get an app to upload pics and video to civil rights groups. 
Do it. Do it for Dr. King. Do it for Bobby Kennedy. Do it for Michael, and Trayvon, and Laquan, and Earl. For Mr. and Mrs. Khizr Khan and the memory of their beloved and heroic son. Do it for a blood smeared child in a Syrian ambulance. For the 97 year old woman who lost her home to Mnuchin’s outfit, over a 27 cent shortfall. Do it for every decrepit urban school system in every city that caves on tax abatement for bastard developers like Trump. Do it for every maternal fatality in every state that has forced the shuttering of women’s health care facilities. Do it for coal miners who, after doing one of the shittiest jobs in God’s black earth, wonder if they have a pension  and health care.
Get into the streets. Just do it. If you haven’t been beat down as many times as Rep. John Lewis, do it. If you haven’t been redlined out of a mortgage, do it. If you aren’t cutting meds in half and skipping meals, do it. If there’s picture hanging at home of your dad or mom or grandparents, in a uniform circa 1945, know that their honor and heroism before a global threat is wearing off, and DO IT.
Because if Donald Trump is about to take the oath of office, WE HAVE NOT DONE ENOUGH.
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Too late to rec, but consider it done!

Too late to rec, but consider it done!

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the only contradiction in the WaPo article is ab
the only contradiction in the WaPo article is about the date range.
and the Guardian article is vague on that point
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This is some BULLLSHIT.
This is some BULLLSHIT.
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Well, well, well, who knew that these misogynist
Well, well, well, who knew that these misogynistic men were afraid of women protesting them. They really don’t want to see the reality, do they.
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Well I’ll just note in passing that they would h
Well I’ll just note in passing that they would have a hard time arresting a million people.   Just sayin’.
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What is a fee Fee? there is some indication it i
What is a fee Fee?  there is some indication it is a rather obscene slang for prisoner activities- could that be correct? And if so perhaps it could be dispensed with and use some other term? 
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“feelings”
“feelings”
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there is some indication it is a rather obscene
 there is some indication it is a rather obscene slang for prisoner activities
really?
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Victorians thought the word “leg” so provocative
Victorians thought the word “leg” so provocative that pianos were said to have “limbs.” We titter at this, being adults rather than 11-year-olds.
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Well, if citizens do not have access to their st
Well, if citizens do not have access to their streets/malls/parks etc. and are not allowed to peacefully gather and protest then we live in a dictatorship- we do seem to be leaning that way. Very sad really
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We will be very shortly. I suggest arming yourse
We will be very shortly. I suggest arming yourself, legally of course.
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All of DC is now Trump’s personal safe space. He
All of DC is now Trump’s personal safe space.  He has a lot of triggers you know.
But once a citizen has to ask the government for permission to protest (permits, please Mr. policeman don’t shoot me), then there is no 1st amendment anymore.
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Permits are required for all protests in DC. Tha
Permits are required for all protests in DC. That is a fact and has been for decades. Even the people protesting weekly in the park against Abortion must have a permit...I know because I used to get them stopped from protesting by insisting that they show their permit to the police - when they couldn't produce it they had to move on.
The truth of the matter is that it is complicated to arrange the inauguration and FEAR MONGERING because you are mad about the outcome of an election is just proving the Democratic party has lost all touch with reality.
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Well I don’t know if anyone else has seen this,
Well I don’t know if anyone else has seen this, but I just got an email from my church about March for Life (pro-birthers) in DC on Jan. 27.  I wonder if this is still going on. If so, this is a clear violation of the 1st amendment to let some activists march SO CLOSE TO INAUGURATION, but not others.
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They are right wing lunatics so they get to marc
They are right wing lunatics so they get to march. This is how things will work from now on.
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I had read about the March for Life — do they ha
I had read about the March for Life — do they have permits for the location already approved?  If so, then it looks like we have an opportunity in court.  If they are just planning to go (without approved permits) or are waiting on permits, then everything is on hold.  Based on the Washington Post article (link above), the hold up is the PIC — which isn’t surprising from the Trump camp.
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that makes sense to me also. the Presidential In
that makes sense to me also.  the Presidential Inaugural Committee has a reason to delay as long as possible and has no reason to EVER release the blocked areas.
Let me put it this way: anyone who believes permits for the blocked areas will be released has more faith in the group surrounding DJT than I do.
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Welcome to the fascist states of america!
Welcome to the fascist states of america!
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Is the ACLU aware of this? Is there a petition s
Is the ACLU aware of this? Is there a petition somewhere we can sign? Any action we can take?
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This Obama's National Park Service. Trump isn't
This Obama's National Park Service. Trump isn't president yet. Never forget how much complicity there was in setting Donny up to be a strongarm thug.
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Obama has been absolutely terrible during this e
Obama has been absolutely terrible during this entire process.
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Rational thought.
Rational thought. 
Where did this come from?
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This is a complete outrage. It has to be unconst
This is a complete outrage. It has to be unconstitutional  Someone needs to file a lawsuit.
I think they should ignore this order and do the march exactly as planned.  What are they going to do to a million women?  
If entry to the area is blocked, then just march right around the perimeter.
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Challenge it in court, but I think the key is to
Challenge it in court, but I think the key is to find a protest site and get media coverage for it. 
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The marches can still occur in the cities. As ma
The marches can still occur in the cities. As matter of fact it will allow for their to be build up of support. Then have a big march in D.C.
I liken it to Jiujitsu, flow around the obstacle.
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I’m dreading the inevitable MSM articles insinua
I’m dreading the inevitable MSM articles insinuating that this kind of thing is not that big a deal.
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Our freedoms are becoming an illusion.
Our freedoms are becoming an illusion.  
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Sounds like a great thing to put to the test and
Sounds like a great thing to put to the test and get before the SCOTUS.  Freedom to assemble is a fundamental right in this country.  I expect lots of what Trump wants to do will ignore such things, but that is why we have a SCOTUS.   Looks like we are going to see separation of powers getting put to the test right out of the gates.   The Founding Fathers set it up like that for a reason, knowing one day we’d have a tyrant in office.   They didn’t want you to trust me, or me to trust you when it came to this stuff.   They wanted it set up so even if a tyrant does come to power, they can’t legally do whatever the hell they want. 
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Too bad the SCOTUS is becoming just another part
Too bad the SCOTUS is becoming just another partisan prize claimed by the winners of Congress and the presidency.
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To my knowledge, Nixon didn’t do this. Reagan di
To my knowledge, Nixon didn’t do this. Reagan didn’t do this. Bush didn’t do this. Trump, as far as I know, will be the first president to try to restrict peaceable assembly this way.
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The 58th Presidential Inauguration Committee
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Bush had eggs and garbage thrown at him, remember?
Bush had eggs and garbage thrown at him, remember?
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Bush had people in “free speech zones”
Bush had people in “free speech zones”
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Had a bet with my sister on which amendment woul
Had a bet with my sister on which amendment would be suspended first, but somehow I thought He Who Must Not Be Named would wait until January 20.  Silly me. 
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Those really cheap plastic rain slickers that co …
Those really cheap plastic rain slickers that come rolled up for like a dollar? They seem like they’d be a great canvas for slogans written with a marker….
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Why does this immediately recall Tiananmen Square?
Why does this immediately recall Tiananmen Square?  
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Um, the tanks?
Um, the tanks?
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On January 22nd the’ Right to Lifers’ have their
On January 22nd the’ Right to Lifers’ have their annual anti-Roe/Wade March on the Mall.  I have no info, but I would guess that one is approved and even have DT speaking at it.  These are scary times.
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This is a Rudy Giuliani, Bloomberg, Bush tactic.
This is  a Rudy Giuliani, Bloomberg, Bush tactic. Set up “free speech zones” to limit dissent. This is not new. We march anyway and don’t get flustered by their bullshit, kay?
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Of course the fascists must not allow protests a
Of course the fascists must not allow protests against the coronation. I would assume that the new director of the Park Service will find reasons to forbid all large gatherings in DC that might be protests from Jan. 20 on. People should ignore such. Let them try to arrest tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people.
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Actually, an automotive protest might also have
Actually, an automotive protest might also have a big effect. A few million extra cars circulating around DC at low speed (or stopped in traffic) could be quite noticeable. Since DC has decent public transportation, transit protests could supplement the gridlock.
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“We should go to DC anyway”.
“We should go to DC anyway”.
As far as I know that’s exactly what people are going to do.  Free speech is guaranteed in the 1st Amendment to the Constitution.  Of course the American Fuehrer doesn’t believe in free speech any more than his hero did.  It’ll be interesting to see how he handles that kind of defiance of His Orangeness. 
Like Hitler he’s been broadcasting his intention to become dictator, and like Hitler he’s been underestimated.  Ordinary people want to believe that he doesn’t really mean all that crazy stuff, and the big wheels think they can control him. 
If Herr Drumpf follows the pattern there will be a massive “terrorist attack” followed by a permanent state of national emergency followed by rule by decree.  Note that Drumpf doesn’t need the Enabling Act; he already has the Patriot Act, which grants him pretty much the same power. 
“And so it begins...”  Get ready. 
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Did I not write a diary about this way back in t
Did I not write a diary about this way back in the beginning? To be truthful, at the time I didn’t really think that the dumb ass, dead beats had enough of them to pull it off. Guess What!
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Except it began at least as far back as the impl
Except it began at least as far back as the implementation of that damned so-called “Patriot” Act.  This was the only possible outcome once that happened.  Too many people were either too stupid to see that, or didn’t care — or it’s what they *wanted* to happen.
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F*** ‘em, who needs a PERMIT ? Did Orangeatang a
F*** ‘em, who needs a PERMIT ? Did Orangeatang ask my permission to trample my Civil rights ?
 Maybe  folks who can afford a ticket should wear  large buttons on their coats. 
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Can we call it fascism now?
Can we call it fascism now?
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Ya vol.
Ya vol.
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This is not true. I am going to the Women’s Marc
This is not true. I am going to the Women’s March on DC  January 21st.  The permits are done and we will be having our rally in front of the US Capitol Building On Independence Ave and 3rd street SW and the march will begin moving west on Independence Ave. Exact route is to be determined. I just received from one of the organizers.  It’s a done deal. They will be posting this information on the website soon WEBSITE: www.womensmarch.com , www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2016/12/09/the-womens-march-on-washington-says-they-have-secured-a-starting-location/?utm_term=.414636ff08c4
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Since when does anything have to be true?
Since when does anything have to be true?
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what part is not true?
what part is not true?
I know exactly where Independence Ave and 3rd Street SW is.
And it is not The Mall, the Lincoln Memorial, the Washington Monument or Pennsylvania Avenue, which are the areas mentioned.
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ONE SEAT IN THE SENATE STILL TO BE DETERMINED
Their is a runoff election for a Senate seat tomorrow the 10th.  We need this seat!
Runoffs are all about turn out.  It’s no longer about money, they need people to call.  A human voice to get people motivated.
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You know...with texting and instagram, there are
You know...with texting and instagram, there are ways to plan some kind of protest along the route the cars take? I think we’ll see some kind of statement made. People are creative when we have to be. And this administration will call for creativity to fight.
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i think we should expect cell phones to be block
i think we should expect cell phones to be blocked on that day
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You know, Republicans have cell phones, too...th
You know, Republicans have cell phones, too...they would be ticked off if they couldn’t communicate. One thing people here seem unaware of is that Republicans exist, there will be a bunch of them around celebrating Trump.
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I think Rcons have demonstrated they will give u
I think Rcons have demonstrated they will give up anything without complaint if they are told it is for their “safety”
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They’ve never had to give up anything noticeable …
They’ve never had to give up anything noticeable….everyone depends on their phones nowadays. Not being able to get their dear leader’s tweets on their special day would be a no go. Besides, everyone knows cutting cell service would make security more difficult, not less.
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all i know is that they shut down cell phone rec
all i know is that they shut down cell phone reception in Boston for the Red Sox World Series victory parade because they were concerned about aftermath of the Marathon bombings.  If they would do that for a sporting event, they would do it for an incoming president who is despised by so many.
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Seriously??? WTF good would doing that do for an
Seriously???  WTF good would doing that do for anything? 
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there was a rumor that the Tsarnaev brothers may
there was a rumor that the Tsarnaev brothers may have detonated their devices using a cell phone trigger, and this was the first big outdoor public event after the Marathon bombings.
I was at a meeting where we suddenly all realized we had no cell service and it was a serious inconvenience.  Then we temporarily adjourned the meeting to go outside and watch the victory parade go by, and that was when we heard that cell phone service downtown was shut down for the duration of the parade.
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They're probably afraid that White Nationalists
They're probably afraid that White Nationalists will lace the area with pressure cooker bombs, right?
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yep, good point Spammy, that way the protesters
yep, good point Spammy, that way the protesters can be blamed for causing disruptions, you know, being there makes them a target and  made the Deplorables mad enough to do x, y, a z.
ie We’ll make them hit us.
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It would be cool if there could be thousands of
It would be cool if there could be thousands of people walking around in home-made white dunce caps.  No signs, noise or disruptive behavior required and it would provide photos with a very clear message
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But aren’t these permissions in Obama’s admin ha
But aren’t these permissions in Obama’s admin hands right now?
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Couldn’t people just show up?
Couldn’t people just show up?
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Given the recent CIA revelations about Putin hel
Given the recent CIA revelations about Putin helping to rig the election for Trump, perhaps it will be Trump who doesn’t show up.
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So what if anything can be done about this? It i
So what if anything can be done about this? It is outrageous that citizens are being denied the right to peaceful protest.
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See Third post down Pussy….The Meek shall inheri …
See Third post down Pussy….The Meek shall inherit what is left of the Earth……..
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i can’t flag this—will someone else give it another one please
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...and *poof*… Bojo.
...and *poof*… Bojo.
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Even better, see his rant at the Help Desk.
Even better, see his rant at the Help Desk.
He’ll certainly be missed.
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Christ, wrong link, sorry… …
Christ, wrong link, sorry…
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I think that instead of marching or whatnot, eve …
I think that instead of marching or whatnot, everyone should line the inauguration route… and silently turn their backs when the motorcade passes.   Or go to the inauguration, down in front, near the mic’s… and make no peep whatsoever.  No interruptions, no applause… just stone dead silence. A paltry crowd to mar the moment.
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Hippy dippy Shit as Abbie Hoffman used to say…….
Hippy dippy Shit as Abbie Hoffman used to say…….
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that might make sense if the inauguration were a
that might make sense if the inauguration were a smaller event.
you can’t get “down in front near the mics” for the swearing-in.  That area is all reserved seating and very heavily policed, and the mics are up much higher than where people are sitting and standing.
also, if you turn your back on the motorcade there will be lots of other people between you and the street
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Me…..I’m buying a 12 Gauge Shot Gun with a RECOIL PAD  and doing some Plinking at the local Dump…..and You
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Don't take it to DC -- strict gun laws there.
Don't take it to DC -- strict gun laws there.
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Too reminiscent of the types of controls you mig
Too reminiscent of the types of controls you might expect in Russia- This is a blatant and heavy handed suppression of free speech. Aren’t there any Lawyers out there that can fight this?  Make them PROVE they will be using this space during that Whole time span.
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When is the last time You saw a Lawyer buy Cloth
When is the last time You saw a Lawyer buy Clothes at Salvation Army?  Grow up Man!!!!!
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Going to STARBUCKS and TRADER JOES and complaini
Going to STARBUCKS and TRADER JOES and complaining about thier WI FI?
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Excellent...slogans printed on outerwear...confi
Excellent...slogans printed on outerwear...confiscated and nudity will prevail!
Oh Noes!!!
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Dear Washington DC.
Dear Washington DC. 
Apparently free speech is dead.  Please consider a general strike.  Just turn off the power January 20th morning and take a long weekend.
Sincerely,
Concerned Citizen
PS, it’ll be good for the environment.
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Apparently the incoming Administration is a tad
Apparently the incoming Administration is a tad concerned that there may be one or two people who wish to express a negative opinion about the way they are conducting themselves.
Of course, they’ve done nothing wrong. /s
Besides, how do they know we are not there to see the cherry blossoms?
I didn’t know that “BrainDead” was a documentary ...
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Once again — small groups, as was kindly pointed
Once again — small groups, as was kindly pointed out somewhere above — 25 or less? — scattered at any locations on the Mall, turn their backs in silent, non-violent protest. Cannot be missed. Requests should be made to any lines of police nearby, to respond if your group becomes threatened. I will be there, by myself or with a group for comfort.
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they could easily be missed
they could easily be missed
the crowd is enormous
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This Diary is well-meaning, but ultimately misle …
This  Diary is well-meaning, but ultimately misleading… 
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Wasn't it just a couple hundred years ago that p
Wasn't it just a couple hundred years ago that people FOUGHT & KILLED & DIED for these rights?
Aren't we still told that we should support the troops because the fight for our rights?
Some did at DAPL. Perhaps DC should be their next stop.
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Come on folks, you are the millennials. I attend
Come on folks, you are the millennials. I attended my first protest rally in 1970. There is absolutely nothing the authorities can if you organize relatively small flash mob protests, quick, in strategic & important locations, and get the fuck out of there. We who oppose the inauguration of the Tangerine Terror as our next POTUS will win the news cycle Inauguration Day.
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How would they stop tens, if not hundreds of tho
How would they stop tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people?
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Al Sharpton has planned a protest for Jan. 14 at
Al Sharpton has planned a protest for Jan. 14 at the MLK memorial and I wonder if this one will be affected as well. Not right on the mall, but close. It will be interesting to see what happens with this protest and it may provide some clues as to what to expect on Jan. 20 and 21.
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the MLK monument is not on the Mall so it is not
the MLK monument is not on the Mall so it is not one of the areas set aside
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Good. I couldn’t tell from the Guardian article
Good. I couldn’t tell from the Guardian article exactly what the scope of the blocking permit is. 
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the scope of the blocking, as stated in the Guar
the scope of the blocking, as stated in the Guardian article and the diary, is:
The Mall (commonly thought to be the space between the Capitol and the Washington Monument)
the area around the Washington Monument (which locals think of as being on the Mall)
the Lincoln Memorial (on the extension of that same green space on the other side of the Washington Monument, which locals also think of as the Mall)
and Pennsylvania Avenue, the main route the inaugural parade takes from the Capitol to the White House.
this photo shows the relative locations of the Capitol, the Washington Monument and the Lincoln Memorial:
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A resident of the District for 40 years I though
A resident of the District for 40 years I thought this story sounded fishy, and it is. So I Googled it.
Every 4 years the National Park Service takes out a block of permits on behalf of the Inauguration Committee 1 year before the inauguration. [Trump wasn't even a serious contender then.] Once the committee determines what it needs, the remaining permits are released.
Even so, groups of 25 or fewer require no permit and the NPS allows larger groups to assemble as long as they are not blocking anything. The NPS policy is to foster free speech. So come and jeer if you want. 
The National Women's March leaders say their event is still on.
You'll have to read some, but here are the less sensational facts: www.washingtonpost.com/...
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groups of 25 or fewer? are you serious?
groups of 25 or fewer?  are you serious?
more than 100,000 are already committed to attend the women’s march on Washington and that number is low because most of the people I know have not signed up but are still going (like me).
there are very few places in DC where a crowd of 100,000 or more can gather.
so prohibiting use of these large public spaces inhibits mass demonstrations.  period.
Various people have linked to the Washington Post article in this thread, and I have already read it.  The only different thing in the WaPo article is the time frame mentioned.  The Guardian article brings up the March 1 date.
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Well, the WaPo article also points out that this
Well, the WaPo article also points out that this is the NPS modus operendi for every inauguration rather than some Trump conspiracy.
And that the women’s march has not been canceled, despite reports to the contrary.
The National Park Service did a great job for the gay march on washington in ‘87, which was easily a million people, and the Colbert/Daly Rally to Restore Sanity.
My only concern—and this is purely my limited and unsourced conjecture—is that the Trumpettes will grab as much space as they can justify.
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i didn’t say the women’s march was cancelled, an
i didn’t say the women’s march was cancelled, and haven’t seen anyone else reporting that either.  it’s common knowledge that they are trying to find another place to gather.
but there are only a few open spaces downtown big enough to accommodate a crowd of 100,000 or more if the Mall and the Lincoln Memorial and the Washington Monument are denied.
and it is most definitely *not* NPS modus operandi to wait this close to the inauguration before letting groups know whether they will be allowed to protest.  that is the whole point of the headline of the WaPo article: this is very late for groups to not know whether their permits will be granted.
And the March 1 date mentioned in the Guardian article is very concerning.  It is also not NPS modus operandi to stretch an inaugural restriction that many weeks after the inauguration.  Perfect example of that is the forced birthers march that happens every year to mark the anniversary of the Roe v Wade decision.  It always falls within a few days of the inauguration, and interestingly, their permit for this year for use of the Washington Monument grounds has NOT been delayed.
IANAL and you can call me paranoid if you want but I see content based discrimination here
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With all due respect, I question the veracity of
With all due respect, I question the veracity of this article. If I am wrong, I apologize. Barack Obama is still President, so how would this kind of order come from the National Park Service? Again, I could be wrong, but we must all be concerned about the proliferation of fake news stories, and how posting, forwarding, clicking on them contributes financially to those who write them. This is only the second story I have read on KOS that I suspected of not being genuine. The other one (and again, if I’m wrong, I apologize) purported to be from an ex-wife of Trump, who had been convinced to marry him because he carried a Bible around and quoted from it to persuade her. That really set off my BS detector, while the rest of the article contained statements that most opponents of Trump, including myself, were inclined to believe might be true. I heard one of the guys who write and profit from fake news stories say that right-wing sites generated lots of hits and lots of money, while fake ‘liberal’ stories fell flat and weren’t worth the effort. But who’s to say that if writers learn how to push our buttons, we won’t help them circulate misinformation as predictably as people on the right? Please check this out, and again, if it is true, I apologize.
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ok tell me the part you doubt and i will clarify
ok tell me the part you doubt and i will clarify it for you.
you can also go to the linked article at the Guardian and tell me what part of that you doubt and I will try to clarify that as well, although I can only speak definitively for what I myself have written.
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I gayronetee you, TBM is the real deal. He/she h
I gayronetee you, TBM is the real deal. He/she has been around these parts a long time. We’ve even locked horns a couple of times. This person is not a troll.
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What. The. Hell?
What. The. Hell?
How is this legal or constitutional? If you can’t protest the president in the nation’s capitol, what right to protest is there? Stand in a desert, but don't make noise?
Isn’t there a legal challenge for this? This is one of those basic political rights.
I am now wondering about MLK’s march on Washington. I remember Kennedy first opposed it, then agreed to it and met the leaders, but I can’t remember if he could have prevented it.
Maybe an alternate protest should be held at trump tower if it can be blocked in DC. At least we know the leader in NYC will not prevent it.
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You will only be allowed to walk if you " goose
You will only be allowed to walk if you " goose step" or wear your KKK sheets.
Americas 2nd dictatorship " first being King George " Trumputin with his gestapo of deplorables. You can bet they will be there and if you show up you can count on the same treatment the guy got at the Rump rally yesterday . Were the next so call Presadent said " GET HIM OUT Of HERE , were do these people come from Get him out" of a US CITIZEN who didnt support him. Deffently a sign of the things to come. A rise of the Fourth Reich ?????????
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The only way you’re ever going to get Trump out
The only way you’re ever going to get Trump out of office is to surround the capitol with millions of demonstrators while Congress is in session.  That’s now, or whatever Trump holds the office 20 years from now.
We must not allow this to stand.
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Trump would probably call out the National Guard
Trump would probably call out the National Guard or something.  That will be something to see, won't it?
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He’d probably just give the police permission to
He’d probably just give the police permission to fire on the crowd.  It’s what he campaigned upon.
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Show up, anyway. Dare them to arrest a million p
Show up, anyway. Dare them to arrest a million people.
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but not until every last one has in-person non-v
but not until every last one has in-person non-violence training. One loose cannon could get a lot of people killed. 
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It is kind of quaint to be worrying about permit
It is kind of quaint to be worrying about permits.  In the coming years we are going to need a bit more fortitude than that...
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I have a lot of questions. So what if people wen
I  have a lot of questions. So what if people went to DC to protest anyway?  Would they be arrested for not having a permit?  Can there be a legal challenge to using the permit requirement to subvert the right to peaceable assembly?  Does this mean there is always a way for the government to just up and subvert constitutionally guaranteed rights?
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Good points. Trump is no friend of the National
Good points.  Trump is no friend of the National Park Service, so why did they do his bidding to stop protests in the traditional places for them?  The "construction zone" reason is specious.
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There are a lot of comments on this diary. Some
There are a lot of comments on this diary.  Some are pointing out that reserving several blocks before an inauguration is standard practice, and that demonstrations are not actually prohibitive in all of DC.  This news might be on the border between hyperbolic and fake.  And maybe from now on, we each have to check EVERY SINGLE STORY we see.
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Legal challenges will fail if the NPS acted reas
Legal challenges will fail if the NPS acted reasonably and giving preference to the inauguration is certainly going to be considered to be reasonable by any court.
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A protest march with permits is a “parade”. If t …
A protest march with permits is a “parade”.   If they don’t provide the permits, the protests should occur anyway.  That’s what will make them bonafide protests.
That said, all the prep for these protests seem disjointed.  Why is Michael Moore staging one protest, the Women’s March another, etc…?  Join together and blow them away with the sheer mass of the numbers.
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The different protest groups have very different
The different protest groups have very different agendas. Some are as extreme as Trump but in the other direction.
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There is no such thing in “as extreme...but in t
There is no such thing in “as extreme...but in the other direction”.  Let’s stop with the false equivalencies.
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Wait a minute, is Obama not in charge until some
Wait a minute, is Obama not in charge until some point on Jan 20?
Great ideas, btw.
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From Drumpfucks official Prez-Elect page “He wil …
From Drumpfucks official Prez-Elect page “He will defend Americans' fundamental rights to free speech….”
Gee, broke that one before he even became Prez.
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Oh, hell no! The people will be heard and seen v
Oh, hell no!  The people will be heard and seen voicing their opinions as never before, and no itty-bitty blocks by Trump and his adherents can stop the voice of the people.  We’ll see who’s a populist and who isn't.  Hillary has a 2.7 million lead in the popular vote so far, and she's my President in 2017, as far as I'm concerned.  To those who say, “Give Trump a chance”, I say, “You didn’t give Obama a chance.  Trump is showing during his transition that he’ll be a terrible President, nominating a kakistocracy.  He blew his "chance” already.”  No honeymoon for Trump.  
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Not even in office and the Tyrant’s heel even no
Not even in office and the Tyrant’s heel even now stomps the Constitution to shreds and burns it to ash.
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it’s not off www.womensmarch.com
it’s not off www.womensmarch.com   I hope everyone is coordinating centrally, because a good social action is a coordinated social action.  Otherwise it’s disorganized and ineffective.  I’m in DC — these folks are planning to meet at McPherson Square, which is on K Street.  Now, given that at least 100,000 people are expected, that will be tight, so it’s likely that people will walk.  We are allowed to carry signs in public — no need to have them pinned to our clothing.  I can carry a poster in the grocery store, on my college campus, or when I’m strolling with my mom and my daughter (who is flying in from Denver) to stroll on the mall.  My taxes pay for it.  I want to go see the Lincoln Monument and see if the great marble statue is really shedding tears, as I’ve been told.  
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Your taxes may pay for it, but the blood of your
Your taxes may pay for it, but the blood of your fathers before you guaranteed it!
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Given that Al Sharpton's group is organizing it
Given that Al Sharpton's group is organizing it I would not expect much. :(
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No, no, no, just no. That's not how this works.
No, no, no, just no. That's not how this works. They're doing the same thing they do every inaugural year. They set aside the permits a year in advance, just as they always do, for every incoming president. The delays are happening because Trump's inaugural team is incompetent and way behind schedule.

If we don't stick to facts on the left, it's all over. We can't counter their conspiracy bullshit with more of the same, we have to be accurate and fact-based to counter a world of lies.

Facts:
"But the National Park Service, which handles permitting, said it does not grant any requests until the Presidential Inaugural Committee, which plans the parade and other events to usher in the new president, maps out where it will hold inauguration-related activities.
  
Although each incoming president is afforded the same courtesy, the issue is attracting special attention this year since the bitter election emboldened more people to organize to support their causes. Typically, federal officials said, only a handful of groups seek a First Amendment Permit from the Park Service for the quadrennial event.
  
Federal regulations essentially give priority to the inaugural committee, setting aside prime land, including the entire Mall between First and 14th streets NW and the Ellipse by the White House, for its use. Land around the Lincoln Memorial and Washington Monument also is included.
  
The Park Service, as a matter of standard practice, applies on behalf of the committee for the sweeping permits a year in advance, according to Mike Litterst, a Park Service spokesman. The committee then typically relinquishes some of them, allowing demonstrators to secure their permits.
  
The permits are doled out on a first-come, first-served basis. Trump’s Presidential Inaugural Committee hasn’t technically been issued any permits yet, but it’s at the front of the line to receive them. The committee, according to Litterst, has not yet rescinded any of the permits and does not have a deadline for deciding.
  
Alex Stroman, a spokesman for the Presidential Inaugural Committee, a private entity, said the group is still figuring out its plans for inauguration and has not yet made any decisions about which pieces of land it will use."
  
Source: 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/none-of-the-inauguration-protests-have-their-proper-permits-yet-heres-why/2016/12/08/82ba757e-bbc6-11e6-91ee-1adddfe36cbe_story.html?utm_term=.71b0b5d8cfde
 
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Permit, shmermit--Constitution VERY CLEAR: "NO L
Permit, shmermit--Constitution VERY CLEAR: "NO LAW shall ABRIDGE the right of the people to PEACEABLY ASSEMBLE." Permit or not!
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You can assemble but you can't block pedestrian
You can assemble but you can't block pedestrian or vehicular traffic without a permit.
Get over it.
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I have noticed that the Left is as much into fak
I have noticed that the Left is as much into fake news as the Right.
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This piece might just be a bit of fear mongering
This piece might just be a bit of fear mongering...sorry the Inauguration is complicated...hell I stood for nearly 20 hours in line to see President Obama's 2008 Inauguration with 1,000's of others many who didn't have a ticket...it is massive and super high security....not everything is an evil plot - sometimes it is just real life. Hillary lost - it is sad - it is however the truth. There is no special plot to stop anti-Trump protests.
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FUCK da POLICE!
FUCK da POLICE!
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^ really intelligent comment worthy of a Trump s
^ really intelligent comment worthy of a Trump supporter.
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This is definitely bad news for the First Amendm
This is definitely bad news for the First Amendment. But given how thin-skinned the Annoying Orange is, how can we be surprised?
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Depends on whether this march is also cancelled:
Depends on whether this march is also cancelled:
If not the NPS is clearly discriminating on the basis of content. But if not there is no real grievance; reschedule for March when the weather is better.
(And get a group not connected to Al Sharpton to organize it.)
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Back in 2006, there was Sop Box placed on Indepe
Back in 2006, there was Sop Box placed on Independence Mall in Philadelphia and it was later announced no more political commentary, So I went there with ACLU leaflets 99% of it the Bill of Rights and handed it out as a park ranger kept threatening me with arrest as a NY Times Photographer, and local TV were filming. Maybe a poster on the Mall hailing Trump's Coronation. In January I think it might be worse in Philadelphia than DC because Senator Toomie and Philadelphia State Republican Rep. Are trying it cut off all Federal and state financing until Philadelphia stops being a Sanctuary City
dailykos.com/stories/2016/12/11/1609779/-300-Years-Ago-Philly-Stood-Up-To-King-George-Today-It-s-King-Trump-and-Gang?_=2016-12-11T08:19:23.383-08:00
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Back in 2006, there was Sop Box placed on Indepe
Back in 2006, there was Sop Box placed on Independence Mall in Philadelphia and it was later announced no more political commentary, So I went there with ACLU leaflets 99% of it the Bill of Rights and handed it out as a park ranger kept threatening me with arrest as a NY Times Photographer, and local TV were filming. Maybe a poster on the Mall hailing Trump's Coronation. In January I think it might be worse in Philadelphia than DC because Senator Toomie and Philadelphia State Republican Rep. Are trying it cut off all Federal and state financing until Philadelphia stops being a Sanctuary City/
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/12/11/1609779/-300-Years-Ago-Philly-Stood-Up-To-King-George-Today-It-s-King-Trump-and-Gang?_=2016-12-11T08:19:23.383-08:00
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